Posts by b_ryan

I think it is awesome. You own an old Kemper....send it to “us” and we replace the LED’s for free. I bought mine back when it was originally released and they failed soon after purchase and a month ago I eventually got around to send it to Kemper to get it fixed. It took them 6 days and it was back in my care with new LED’s. For free. I do think that it is amazing. Great service.

Damn....that makes totally sense. Thanx a lot to all involved

Isn’t the stack everything?

I use s/pdif in/out. But the output source page has the following:

Main Output: Master Stereo

Monitor Output: Off

Direct Output: Off

S/pdif Out: Git/stack

I tried to change it to git/Master mono and it works. Freakin’ amazing . But how does that effect my need of recording the dry and wet signal at the same time? Is it the same as git/stack?

Today when I played around with the Editor, I just realized that effects post the amp/cab does not work, but if I put the effects pre amp/cab it works. Have anyone experienced this?

Yes....I run the first beta of the editor and has done so ever since it was released, but I’m not interested in more betas, since I see a lot of people with different issues. I have no real issues now and don’t need to upgrade the editor until it’s finished. So, that’s why I asked if there were any news about the release of the finished editor.

Any news about RM and the editor and when to expect it to be finished?

I’m not convinced about the possibility of this. I don’t believe that it is possible to run two rigs at a time with this units circuit board, cpu etc, which would be necessary for this to be possible.

No, it will not be possible to hear the result before the combination process has ended. And yes....it will take a lot of trial-and-error (which I know and already pointed out in my first post), unless the guys with the knowledge come up with a solution, that is usable. But if you get the choice of “save or cancel”. Then start again to get a new profile. It might sound clumsy, but I can see it working. Even if it takes a lot of trial-and-error it is a pretty easy process. Press cancel to try again. I would rather have the opportunity than not . I also know that this feature is not gonna happen

I don’t think you get my point. It’s not two different request. It’s one request. When combining two sounds it basically does not matter if it’s two complete different setups consisting of different amps, cabs etc or just a different microphone. It’s the same thing the Kemper has to do to create a profile. It’s not two different scenarios. Its exactly the same but with different variables.

And yes....there is a solution by adding a mixer and thus more mics in front of the Kemper and mix the signal chain there. Really cool......for those who do their own profiles. Like I stated prior, I don’t do that myself. So I don’t have that luxury. I don’t have the luxury of owning amps either. Neither do I have space to do it. So that puts me out of that game entirely.

And since I’m not the only one using the Kemper like this, we all actually miss out on that part of the Kemper. There is a reason for using more than one mic. That’s also why, like you state yourself, many profiles actually IS done with more than one mic. One mic has the potential to become too one-dimensional. So many of the people, like me, who don’t do profiles themselves would have this great gift of the opportunity of actually doing this ourself. People could then do these profiles with the intention of people merging them at home. That would be awesome. That’s not for you. I get that.

And live is a whole different game, like I also stated. Did you read my posts at all . So of course that’s not necessarily the best and most ideal solution. But then again....if using a Kemper live you might be able to have a richer sounding guitar. It might be too small a change to notice or it does nothing to the sound as a whole. Who knows?

But I do think that you are missing the point of what I say.

Underwhelmed? No, because that is exactly the way I would go about recording guitars. A guitar, one amp, one cab and two mics.

I would then do another recording with another setup. Perhaps a different amp or mics or a different guitar. That’s where I blend the different sounds. Not on one track. It might be old school, but I think a lot does this. At least in metal. But at the particular track recording I would definitely go for more than one mic to get a more whole amp sound.

To combine to rigs, like you do now, is kinda the same as I propose. Just without the possibility to tweak on the fly.

Really overkill to own 4 units That’s insane dude

Yes, but for us, who don’t profile amps ourselves, but let others do the work for us , it would be a great opportunity to combine two rigs. And when I say rigs it could just as well just be the same amp and cab but with different mics (Two profiles/rigs without reverb, stomp etc). I don’t know how many people uses the Kemper like me opposed to people actually using it only to profile themselves? 50/50 maybe? That might be totally wrong, but I chose the Kemper over all others only because of the more realistic sound (in my ears). Not because of the profiler.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with using only one mic, but I rarely see that anymore in a studio session. Live is a whole different game and also a matter of how much time there is, how many channels the mixer has and how much room for several mics is available etc. But to ME it gives the sound more life and becomes more pleasurable to listen to. Something an eq cannot really achieve. A dual rig setup is not something I really need or have ever needed as such. It’s more a question of combining two mics in one profile. I know I can achieve this by adding a mixer in the context of profiling. But I never really profile anymore. I use the Kemper rig exchange and try out rigs. But it would then open up a possibility to use the already profiled amps with the use of different mics and cabs. But IF I did my own profiles, I would appreciate this opportunity for sure.

Monkeyman>>> No, I did not read the link, you provided. I searched the fora and read several times, that people state that we haven’t got any clear answer to what capabilities which lies within the psychical side of the unit. But I will read it today

Wherestedug>>> To me it certainly makes sense. Who mics up an amp with only one mic? Most use two mics to complement each other. To do two profiles with two separate mics and combine them in the end seems like a great solution.

When the Kemper came out Line 6 and other companies were already doing double rig setups in their units. So maybe......just maybe....Kemper knew this and was a step ahead in their own favor and implemented enough components to secure the future of this machine and not being forced to put out a Kemper 2. By future securing you save money in the long run. We’ve never really got an answer to what the machine is capable of, so we don’t know.

But how much does it take to have loaded two rigs at the same time? Realistically. Does anyone know this for sure? I know nothing about this, but imagine that it could be done. Maybe they’ve already tested this many times and we just don’t know about it.

Realistically it should be possible to run a “combining program” where only one rig is loaded at the same time and you switch between them and press “the combine button” and do a test to see if the new rig sounds right and then do a “save or delete” and start over if it’s not good.

But again....when you put more and more features into your product it also gets more advanced and there’s definitely a fear of getting something that is too advanced out of it the end and going away from the idea of it being “plug n play”.

I know it’s possibly not very realistic to be able to run two rigs simultaneously due to the cpu, circuit board etc. But what about the possibility to combine two rigs into one rig?

I imagine that the way to go about it would be like this: Press the “rig button” and it opens a choice between Rig A and Rig B. And Rig A is the current rig opened on the Kemper. Then you get to scroll for the rig you wish to combine with the current rig in use. And you get the choice of panning, volume etc.

This could come in handy with two completely different rigs but also if you are doing you own profile of your own amp and want more than one mic. I know you can put a mixer in the setup of profiling and then combine different mics. But by this way it’s not necessary to do this.

I realize that getting a usable combined tone can be a lot of trial-and-error due to the fact that you might not be able to hear the end result prior to the combining process. But I do see this a possibility that is based upon a software solution.

This would imho take the Kemper to a completely new place and you don’t have to put out a Kemper 2 anywhere in the near future. You don’t have to anyway

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Seems hard to argue that an updated Kemper offering Stereo rigs with either two amps+cabs or two full signal paths (at a price point less than purchasing two Kempers, in the convenience of one unit, and controllable with one remote) would make them a lot of money. They've walked away from a lot of money before, though. So who knows.

But what if THIS version of the unit actually can do that.....eventually? Imagine you pressing either the “rig button” or the “amplifier button” and that opens up a choice between Rig A/Rig B and volume/pan etc for both. It would only be a software solution then.

I’ve got no clue what so ever if this is actually possible within the existing circuit board etc and if it’s actually able to run two rigs simultaneously. If not then imagine this. Like now you only got access to 1 profile at the time, but can combine 2 and save as 1 profile. It would be a software solution as well. A solution that has to be well thought out, if it’s not gonna take forever to make a combined profile due to a lot of trial-and-error regarding the combining process to make something that sounds good without being able to hear the end result prior to to combining.

Nevertheless I see this as a possibility. And as I see it they are no way near the end of this units capability and as long as they keep adding new elements to this unit, it stays relevant. Do you really feel that it is loosing ground to its competitors? Cause I don’t. Yes.....the Rig Manager and especially the Editor was long overdue, but other than that, it’s still the best way to capture the sound of your amp unless recording with a regular setup of course.

Does the S/Pdif output effect both dry and wet signal? I record both and get different levels from S/Pdif. It must be the particular profiles output on the amp, pedal, eq etc which does the difference. Anyone knows about this? My dry signal is pretty low.

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There is no “point” to be proven here. The VERY first line of my post says “I know this is subjective.”

I’m just looking for advice from other Kemper users regarding headphones used with the Kemper. You said you don’t trust what random people say online, but then you also say to trust what the pros use. Well, a “pro” is a very subjective term too. What do you consider a pro? Only famous people or those online? I’d consider a pro in the context of what I’m looking for here as someone who has extensive experience using various types of headphones with a Kemper. And even headphone experts aren’t really of much use to me in my original question because I specifically want to hear only from Kemper users and their experience with headphones since that’s the exact context that I’m referring to here. Some dude on YouTube with over a million followers telling me that he thinks one pair of headphones are better than another doesn’t mean much to me unless he’s saying they sound better with the Kemper.

I tried both the DT770 and the M50x. They both have solid points. But IMO after trying them both, the M50x seem to come closer to the sound of my profiles when I play them through various PA systems. If I were looking for headphones for listening to tunes or mixing, I’d probably lean more toward the DT770.

Sorry to piss on your cereal this morning. Will try to never let that happen again. But indeed there is a point to be proven, even if you don’t see it. MY point! I’ll stay out of your way. Good day people.

stfuzz states the following: I forgot why I own the ATH50. But it is more hifi sounding because bass, treble and presence are more pronounced compared to the DT770.

SteinbergerHack states this: Among those listed in the OP, I would strongly recommend the ATH-M50x. Very accurate, well-made, and comfortable for long periods of use.

I think I’ve proven my point . You cannot trust other people and their experience regarding what is good and bad sound. One of these two guys are obviously wrong. But who?

We are all very colored of what we think is the truth, because we’ve experienced some stuff that points in that direction. Whether or not it being going from one setup to another and you get the feeling “oh....it must be right what they say” or the other way around, being you searching the internet, trying all possible solutions, listening to friends and influencing people etc. Most of us are getting deceived by our own mind and ears.

We rely way too heavily on fake information. Or maybe not fake. Inadequate information from random people who all think they have the answer.

My best advice. Seek information about what the pros are using and what they use it for. If it’s good enough for the pros it might be good enough for you if it’s a pro user, you like. A lot of pros have been in the game for a long time and have used a lot of gear and have better ears than you and I. Do not just take for granted what random people say.