Thx Burkhard, with this all these levels of abstractions I got lost.
It's a bit counter productive for me to understand that I first have to lock a cab before trying direct profiles.
I'll go back to it , and check more DI profiles then.
I also find this non-intuitive at all ...
About DI profile, please note you need to have CAB section turned on to use the KONE imprint. I know, it is strange, but written in the manual. So, for profile without CAB, just select a random one
yes, you need to turn on the cab
Reaper here, with mainly 2 plugins :
- Ample Sound Bass P Lite II : really great because it's free, the sound is great and it offer the ability to import Guitar Pro Tab -> no MIDI programming (it handles all bass articulations according to the Tab)
- EzDrummer : quite not so expensive (i've seen that slate gives a free light version of SSD5 -> probably a good free alternative)
Ready to go !
Hi,
You have to check in the output menu if the master output is correctly set to "master stereo"
I've tested the Kemper Kone using my Atomic CLR .... It gives a really interresting result: i like it.
But, I noticed that DI (Direct Amp) profile cannot be used. As soon as the Cab section is disabled, the Kone sounds weird
A kemper, Axe etc are made for a specific purpose: as a multiamp(s)with effects. All PCBs in the device are in their for that reason and make it as good as possible. With a typical ampsim on the computer that's not possible and therefore they won't sound as good. Maybe in the future with much better and faster computers. Or we just need to install and insert a small pcb loaded with stuff and voila! it will sound as good as a kemper. But for now, no nothing comes close enough on the computer. I have tried nearly all ampsims that exist and I have not been impressed enough.
No, it is not. the electronics is "just" a good analog frontend to convert the signal, a CPU and /or DSP and a digital to analog convertion chain.
The convertion is very good on the Kemper (or Axe,...) but not better than any good sound card.
The latency is more controlled on dedicated hardware, not relying on interface (USB, Thunderbold) latency, driver latency and OS latency (Windows/LInux or OSx are not real-time OS : the modern CPUs are fast enough to ensure audio "real-time", but it will never guaranty that will never pop or crack
CPU/DSP are chosen to be cheap , just enough powerfull for their purpose ... but yes a 1000€ intel CPU is powerfull enough to process the 15€ DSP of the Kemper 
From STL, this is a direct competitor to Kemper : check the "STL versus the hardware" video which is a video from lasse lamert comparing the plugin with the kemper.
STl has ported all their kemper pack to the STL tonehub
https://www.stltones.com/products/stl-tonehub-plugin
There is the second plugin with overloud th-u that "translate/convert" kemper profile into plugin preset
True innovation or reverse engineering ?
No it's not extremely difficult neither impossible to ge the big pro sound in a home studio.
What ??? Ok if you rely on real hardware, you need amps, cabs, mics and rooms ... Basically to expensive for a home studio. But with a kemper, all this infrastructure is hidden behind a profile. So, yes, it is possible to get a "pro sound" in a bedroom, focusing on a good guitar (new string / pickup) and even more, a good guitarist ... Double tracking or quad tracking sloppy played tracks will just give you sh*t
Yes, the Surface Go is a PC Desktop (Windows 10 running on Intel x86 processor) in a tablette format. So, you can run Rig Manager on it
Common guys, you cannot imagine what a support service can ingest. Ok, they will sell hundered of stage these next two weeks, receiving a lot of tickets about :
- use questions
- user errors
- bugs in KAOS 7
So imagine if they release the KAOS update right now for the rack and toaster version ? they would be flooded by tickets !
Beyond that, i do not understand pricing policy :
- as far as i know,, the only missing stuffs on the stage are the 3 buttons (stomp, effect, amp), both reverb/delay rotary knobs, the ethernet connector (seems dedicated to remote, so useless here)
But the stage has :
- a stereo monitor output
- an additional send/return
- apparently, a updated (better ?) input with 2 impedances selection
- the functionnality of a remote
and it is cheaper than the toaster / rack version ?
What am i missing ?
Display MoreI took a closer look at the controls, compared to the Head the Stage has actually a lot of changes:
- noise gate rotary control gone
- Stomps, Stack and Effects buttons gone
- Mod, Delay and Reverb rotary controls gone
- Tap button replaced by footswitch
- Undo and Redo buttons gone
- rotary control for Power/Tuner/Browser/Perform/Profiler replaced by buttons or a footswitch (tuner)
- Quick-Button gone
- new Pedals button
- On/Off, Copy and Paste buttons gone
- new Edit button
- new Morph button
- rig browsing buttons (four buttons on the right) gone
- Volume rotary control gone, instead Master Volume control moved to the spot where Volume was before (wondering if Master Volume is now the Volume of the rig)
For me personally that means they removed exactly the buttons that i never use and the overall layout is way cleaner
To stay with the differences :
- 2 effects loops
- a stereo monitor output
- The profiling feature ??? Gone ???
Furthermore, there is a new official Kemper stage overview video :
Interresting stuffs :
- Overview of the new preset management :
- Use of USB2 :
-> manages Rig, performances AND PRESETS
If you open source code of TH-U (for example with Notepad ++) and type in search: Kemper
You will see next:
Kemper Profile Model Rig Player
source code ? ... OK got it ... just opening the .vst3 file with notepad++
i really think there is a converter between kemper rigs To overloud th-u:
Check this : choptones now provides rigs pack for overloud.
Check the kemper profiles site : https://www.choptones.com/kemp….name&order=ASC&limit=100
And the overloud version : https://overloud.com/products/choptones-fried-be50d
240 studio profiles in both packs with the same cabs, guitars and boost pedals (And the same amp settings for every profile).... strange?
Maybe ChopTones could explain this?
This is the poweramp used in the kemper power amp version : https://www.profusionplc.com/parts/icepower250asx2
So why to bother to emulate KPA without two of the most important features. Don't get it.
By the way: if you accidentally open a file in notepad and accidentally search for the word kemper, you can find: Kemper Profile Model Rig Player.
Which file ?
So, let's try, the offical demo is released .... https://www.overloud.com/installation-demo.php?p=11000
The business model is also defined : rig packs : https://overloud.com/products/…4GI15LVaz01MzaIQ2UMZuJrOo
you will not be able to change the master volume on the editor.
Would it be possible to set input and outputs options (for example, changing the SPDIF output, or the input source to setup the KPA for a reamp session) ?
Actually, i don't thing there are any patent break. The kemper patent refers to the ability to model a rig by sending some sound patterns to identify the equ and gain stage (non linear function) of a rig chain.
By providing only a player, this ability is hidden. Only overloud has the ability to generate profiles.
I don't know if there is a patent on the DSP algorithm (the player function) itself. If yes, there is no proof that the algo used by overloud is the same.
Looking forward to know the CK reaction on this
