The machine still sounds awesome but drives me crazy...
I saved a sound in Browser mode and named it 2 Voodoo. I browse to that song with the browser knob. I want to save it as a rig so I press Store As. And then it comes with a totally different name (1962 Electro)... Is this logical?
Thanks! I have it done all wrong! In Perform mode I now have a song name (no.1) and another song name under it (in black). I don't know how I achieved this...!
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I made some simple sounds and saved them as a rig with sound names . But I can't figure out how to put them in a playing order without scrolling through all rigs. I have no controller yet. Can I (for the time being) put one after each other (no alfabetical order yet..)?
Just cycle thru the profiles with cabs off for a 4X12 cab and you should be able to get a rock solid tone. Turn gain up or down, tweak treble, bass and midrange. Maybe some presence. Voila the Kemper now will emulate a $1500 guitar amp. Then multiply that by ten to say the least and you now have ten world class amps for the price of one(Minimum). Then for DI recording solutions the Kemper beats an amp hands down without the use of VST eq and compression parameters, I mean straight out of the box you should be getting great authentic tones out of your Kemper unit without a problem!
OK! That's no problem at all in the Browser mode. I can try different effects to it , tweak them (to a certain level).
But somehow I found a nice sound and stored it. It turned out that I had (over)written EXAMPLE SONG 1 in the Perform mode. The same thing happened finding a bluestone for a song that I have to play in a band. It seemed to be stored as an overwritten rig. That's what I mean. I'm having problems to read the English manual and really technically understand what it says (only myself to blame for that!). And there 's a kind of pression to get things done. Or I have to get back to my other stuff again...
Don't get me wrong. I really want to get into everything.
As Segovia said, "build your expertise and your technique slowly and consistently. Jacob's angels had got wings, but they were walking up and down Heaven's stairs nevertheless"
He also said: "I had only one teacher, myself, and only one student, myself."
That's why I'm leaning on others expertise....
I'd advise you to read about "signature sounds" all over the Net... This requires studies, regardless the gear you use.
Also, you might want to read about the same issue on wikpa.org, in order to see how this general topic is addressed with the Profiler.
I have to catch up a lot....! Studies indeed! I guess I ask to much in one moment. I'll sure get back later! Thanks for now!
All of this brings
me to another issue.
I'm always searching for the right sounds of that
particular song from that specific artist. How did he get his sound?
What did he use to achieve that guitarsound. etc.
The Kemper brings us
original sounding amps whether they were used in 1959 or in 2001 to that song
from that artist in that setting. I guess most of us (me certainly included) are
no sound engineer to copy that. Still, I did some pretty good tweaking for
different songs with fine results (BTW on a Boss GT-100...).
However, there are
great exceptions like Josh Munday by the introduction of Bosses GT-100 in
reproducing amazing artist sounds. But again, he is a Roland Guitar Product
Specialist, one of the happy few.
This leads me to my question.
simple is it to achieve this in an even better way as an amateur on the Kemper?
Let's say I want a very close reproduction ( a duplication) of David Gilmours guitarsound in
Does this mean I always have to know exactly what
amp(s?) and what fx in whatever settings and ambience he used? Apart from the fact that he
maybe used a specific (probably extra for him built) Fender strat! And of course
the undoubtably great influence of his fingers... (some things can't
be profiled... : !)
You're forgiven! I know you're right. ! But it can be a drag to spent hours and hours reading and sometimes not knowing what you read because of unknown terms. That's why I quote someone's remark that there should be a teacher standing next to me to show things. It would make things easier.
Since your remark I started reading, trying and puzzling. My handicap is my impatience....
And, for godness'sake, READ THE FREAKING MANUAL! You're having huge issues with a unit you don't know anything about?!
I started allready....! But you must consider the fact that it's not being read as a novel, though most of it is pretty understandable,(after reading two or three times.)
And watch you style of comment....I'm learning better by friendly comment.
FRFR is a term used for amplifiers and/or speakers that are designed to handle all audible frequencies equally well.
Very clear! This kind of speakers are next on my list for wishes.
In a traditional setup every element in your signal-chain will colour your guitar sound:
Guitar -> Effects -> Preamp -> Effects(loop) -> Poweramp -> SpeakerCabinet -> Microphone -> recording/live mixer
The KPA in its default configuration simulates everything between the guitar and the recording/live mixer. If you connect that to a tradidional speaker-cabinet you add another "filter" to the effect of the cabinet that already is included in a virtual rig.
FRFR is a term used for amplifiers and/or speakers that are designed to handle all audible frequencies equally well. A traditional guitar amp/cab is focusing on the frequencies a guitar produce, and is anything but flat-response. In fact it is the uneven amplification of different frequencies that give the amp/cab its unique characteristics. To use the KPA with a traditional guitar cab without turning off the KPA's internal cab-simulation is like putting a microphone in front of a traditional amp and run the signal back into the power-section of a different amp. It may be an interesting experiment to for example put a microphone in front of a Bassman and run it into the effects-return of a Trirec and listen to the result through a Mesa cab, but I'm not so sure the result would be all that nice
You're using a guitar cab, test out profiles until you find some you like and get to playing. No sense getting crazy until you buy a quality frfr monitor. When you do that the gloves are off so to speak. You cab, no matter what cab it is, will make every profile sound like it's coming from that cab. With an frfr every profile can sound like the original. If it's a Marshall sound you're after and you cab is a Fender for instance, you will never get the sound right.
Very clear! Thank you! That underlines the need for me to get a FRFR cab for a uncoloured sound. Unfortunately my savings don't allow that at this moment... but that will be next on my list!
Glad you find your way around the profiler...
And it's all in the manuals...
(And done this without the manuals...but I will come to that for details!)
The manual says on page 18: store button: Pressing Store in Browse mode ....etc.
But with this tweaked sound I'm in Perform mode now. Still I want to store this sound (with knobs STORE, CABINET and FULL PERFORMANCE flashing.....
WOW, that makes a big difference. I'm coming closer...
I have been working around and trying to get close to particular guitarsounds. I found out that double pressing on switches in the above section lead me to other wanted effects, other amps, cabs etc, though in rigs they are not chosen at that time.
This lead me to tweak to a special guitarsound which almost is the same as David Kincaids Gibson SG with flanger during his live version of Trial by Fire (The Brandos, Rockpalast Loreley 1999)
So now we're getting somewhere. Thanks guys!!
The sounds being very similar to each other is due to the cab I'm afraid. If you want the best possible Kemper experience with the widest possible range of tones you need to use a speaker/cab that offers a flattish frequency response and enable the cab simulation on the Kemper side of things, a so called FRFR speaker. Otherwise you'll find most amps sound very similar, just as with other amps you'd find they all have a tendency to sound very samey through the same cab.
If you have studio monitors try using them instead with the cab enabled, or just use headphones, you should get something closer to the sounds you were after. If so then you know that you need to get yourself a monitor that's more suited to the task.
I have a pair of powered KRK Rokit-6 monitors and I will put them into place.Thanks for the suggestion. I'll switch to Monitor cab ON.
OK, first up could you describe in more detail what it is that's lacking in the sound for you.
Is it too harsh/fizzy/trebly? Or conversely is it too soft/muffled/bassy?
Is it a subtle difference to what you heard in the store, or a substantial one?
There are two main factors involved ehre. First of course is the cabinet and output settings on the Kemper, you can adjust these by disabling or enabling the cabinet simulation on the Kemper for it's outputs, and tweaking the global EQ. You also need to make sure you're ohm atched and not pushing too much with the KPA as it is a 600 watt amplifier, too much and your speakers will distort and the result will sound like crap.
The other side is your guitar, each guitar is different and at the store you may have used a low output instrument or high and at home you're using something quite different, you need to visit your input panel and adjust your clean and dirty sens settings (I would also recommend turning the noise gate all the way down to 0 and locking that in place).
At both ends you need to avoid clipping (master volume control and input sense settings control this for output and input respectively).and you should start to get towards where you want to be.
Many sounds sound alike: clean or distorted. (using Browser (next to
TUNER) and then scroll through rigs with BROWSE knob) and add sometimes
tweak on delay and reverb to make them more spacious. I use a Gibson Les
Paul Jimmy Page 1995.
All of this not too loud at home (using
master volume and volume.) In OUTPUT I switched Monitor Cab OFF. For now
connected to a Line 6 412 320 W mono switched left only, 8 Ohm.
will do for now. I guess learning from the Kemper's structure and
routings is more important. And reading all contributions from everyone
helps! Thank you!
VIABCROCE hit the nail on his head: If an experienced user could show me how everything is routed and done I'd be on my way probably within days. Most youtubes only explain the possibilities, and don't show how to get there. Many manuals do the same: they only describe and don't show how.
Reading English technical stuff is a drag...I rather use this precious time to play...
Thanks for all replies until now! I wish someone told me before that I should have to buy another cabinet to get results. I have allready 2 cabs.
And Yes... I have a brand new unused Sennheiser G3 IEM system so on stage that will be no problem (If I in time know how to use the Kemper) I'm not in a band now so in the meantime I'm hoping and willing to learn the Kemper's structure and routings.
The first option is to use the same system you used in the store... Or one along its line. What was it? If we know what you liked we can be of further help
Good question! I never got a chance to try for myself and to look. The dealer showed it for me with his own guitar, his PEAK controller and some amps which he used himself. I only know he used just a single small cabinet with one speaker. So I called him to find out...: In the store he used a single 112 Jackson Ampworks cabinet.
Since I have a Marshall VS 212 and a Line 6 stereo and mono 412 cab (320 W) I thought I should be able to get some sound from either one too. But this not my concern for now.
Explaining of the Kemper by the dealer was not an issue. Indeed he showed me some things but he was technically also way ahead of me because he uses this Kemper quite often for doing gigs. So I figured out: How difficult can it get trying this myself at home?
Maybe I have been too optimistic about that....
For best results, look into a passive FRFR cabinet to pair with your Kemper.
Does this mean I have to buy another cabinet? What is FRFR? (sorry, I wonder if this forum is a way to get me going because everone seems to be a way ahead of me..)
I really don't understand why people using cabs... Kemper simulates
everything include the cab, and remember the PA is a FRFR and that is
what the audience will get, so you must learn how to get great tone thru
(I'm sorry! I can't find a way to reply on a part of a message!)
I use a cab otherwise I can't hear no sound coming out of the Kemper....(!) Or do I understand you wrong? I connect a cab in my room at home to listen tot a profiled sound.And it happens that I have a 4x12 Line6 cabinet (320W) to connect to this Kemper.
I connected the Kemper also to an Allen and Heath ZED 12 fx in my study, to a pair of KRK ROKIT 6-monitors. But that sounded not great. BTW it's just for exploring, finding a way to understand the structure of the Kemper. But it's not easy sofar...