Auto volume / swell = still relevant. Or actually an autoswell delay to be precise.
Posts by citizengain
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Quote from the OP:
"I have several awesome tube amps, a Suhr reactive load, a Torpedo VM-202 (IR loader only) and a Kemper.If I could use the Kemper successfully as an IR loader (amp switched of and CAB loaded with an IR made with cabmaker software), I could sell my Torpedo."
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The Cab Maker is a little bit inaccurate when converting .wav IRs to .kipr.
It is my wish that the Cab Maker was revised since there are hundreds of great IRs that are done in a professional manner and to every taste. The number of Kemper cabs is limited in both quantity and variety compared to impulse responses available.
Making a direct profile is easy and inexpensive compared to making a great cabinet IR (or Kemper cab) with professional equipment. Using direct profiles (or loaded amp in your case) and IRs would give KPA a lot more flexibility. The usage of impulse responses is growing due to the new guitar gear that allows using IRs (Line6 Helix for example).
Here is my test:
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A USB port lock could prevent the copying of your KPA content. I think I saw a rig rundown recently where the guitarist stated that he uses port lock to protect the theft of profiles.
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Some kind of code or combination of buttons to lock the KPA would be useful. Like in digital mixers nowadays. In many cases after the soundcheck, there are many hours to gig and during that time it is sometimes hard to keep an eye on the gear.
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It is in German but click on the subtitles if needed.
I wonder would the results been better if they had refined the profile?
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@JerEvil I will also be looking forward to these!
I'm not sure if you need this advice since you have already done profiling, but I would practise at home making profiles as much as possible so that when the clock is ticking, you wouldn't have to waste time for example finding out what kind of refining process yields the best outcome.
One more thing that you most likely know already, making sure that the profiles sound good in the mix. I often get lost when playing by myself and think that I have the sound nailed, only to find out that with band mix and with proper volume, the sound get totally buried or is too piercing etc.
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Thank you for the answer.
I'm well aware that the cabinet, speakers and miking are the biggest single factor to the sound. But this is not about that. There is definitely something wrong with locking the cab and changing the rig. The sound does change a bit but it sounds more like something in between the first and second amp.
I chose two very different sounding rigs from the Merged Rigs Pack: Edvaha 5150III Hi Sue Red and TAF - TM. Stomps and Effects bypassed.
First clip is Edvaha 5150III Hi Sue Red just as it is in the Merged Rigs Pack. I only raised the Noise gate to get rid of the hiss. Stomps and Effects bypassed.
https://drive.google.com/file/…NeFlDQnM/view?usp=sharing
For the second one I first locked the Edvaha 5150III Hi Sue Red's cab (Hi Sue modern), and the chose a rig called TAF - TM. I raised the gain to match the Hi Sue Red's gain which is 8,2. All stomps and effects bypassed, just Noise Gate to get rid of the hiss.
https://drive.google.com/file/…wc1d1VzA/view?usp=sharing
For the third clip I did what I did with the second one, only this time I didn't lock the cab, but copy pasted it (Hi Sue modern) from the Edvaha 5150III Hi Sue Red.
https://drive.google.com/file/…zYlRMMjQ/view?usp=sharing
If the locking feature worked as it should, second and third should sound the same but they don't.
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The most important differences are below 100Hz and above 10kHz.
Where is the guitar signal in this frequency spectrum?Above 10kHz is very high frequency for an electric guitar. I'm not sure if it is relevant, especially if one has spent his youth blasting Marshall stack next to crash cymbals. Someone with more knowledge might give you a better answer. A guitar speaker's EQ curve starts dropping rapidly after 5kHz.
!00Hz is something you would definitely hear in palm mutes etc. Note G on the third fret of low E string is around 100Hz.
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Here is one more. This time a cab from a merged profile of a Mesa Dual Rectifier and Palmer PDI09 (Bogner OS 2x12 used as a load) versus Palmer PDI09 .wav in Two Notes Wos III. Amp profile used was a DI profile made with Kemper DI box.
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Direct profile, no Pure Cabinet or Space etc.
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Let's keep our fingers crossed that they will make an update that will fix those quirks in the EQ. Using direct profiles in KPA and the wealth of IRs found today would make finding the right sound much more easier than trying to find a KPA rig that has all the details (amp, cab, speakers, mics, sound aesthetics) right from the start.
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I did a test of .wav cabinets in IR loader in DAW versus same .wav cabinets converted with Cab Maker to .kipr format.
I converted three .wav -format cabinets into .kipr format and used Logic X's Match EQ to take a closer look what are the differences.
On the first track I played a riff from a looper in front of KPA, with Kemper's cab on.
On the second track I disabled the Kemper's cab, and then loaded the original .wav -format cab into Two Notes WoS III. And played the same riff from the looper in front of KPA.
The results are kind of all over the place but this confirms what I was hearing: Cab Maker does change the EQ -curve of the cab. The lower frequencies are the ones differ the most.
The .wav format impulse responses that I used were: Ownhammer Marshall V30, SinMix Mesa57 and my own IR of the Palmer PDI09.
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In my experience, sometimes something is missing in the lows and sometimes don't. I don't know how to refine the profile to match the missing lows...
This seems to be quite common problem. In those A/B tests where I'm able to tell the KPA apart from the real amp, it's almost always the bass response that makes the difference.
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Microphone selection, and microphone placement are typically the way to get the desired frequency response in a recording or profile.
I meant the refining process. To get the profile sound like the original miked signal.
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I konw this has been discussed before but I would like to know how to get the bass response right. It seem that profiles I make seem to lack bass response. I've tried palm mutes and playing some chord higher on the neck when refining but no success. Sometimes the low end is better but then there seem to be something wrong with the other frequencies. Without refining the bass is almost always a little weak. That is most noticeable when using a 7 string guitar.
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I received a message from the support that they are now investigating the bug.
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Try a cab created with clean amp and use it on a high gain amp... Sounds horrible.
Could the reason be that a distorted sound contains much more harmonics and overtones etc.?
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I've changed from a clean to a distorted rig.
And to me it seems, as if the amp is locked but the gain value of the new distorted rig is used.
If I crank the gain the same amount in the clean rig, it sounds pretty much the same (I would say exactly, but I didn't do enough research to be this specific)Yes you are right! It is still the same amp but only gain lower. I just tried it and when I raised the gain, lo and behold, it was the same amp. This is actually good so that all the rigs and amps behave the same incorrect way.
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Have you tried changing from a distorted rig to a clean sound with the cab locked? With me, it changes to a clean sound so the amp does change (at least with my KPA). But at least with distorted amps, there are some characteristics from the previous amp. Strange, I have to a better look at it when I have the time.