Recently I play a small pedalboard
I am currently testing some board gearpieces like the Source Audio Collider along with some drives and another solid state preamp. I tend to build a small flyrig, but as much as I like the Sonicake, combining it with the Collider seems a bit unbalanced. I will keep the Sonicstage for sure, but still I am looking for a small preamp that works well as a pedal base. I'll check the Mad Professor Super Black, thx for the input. Do you feel a huge difference in quality soundwise between the Nux and the Torpedo?
Just received the JTC Newsletter, cons! Great Track and great sound.
May I ask, what was used for recording? Thx.
Great. Witch loader?
It's the Hotone Binary IR Cab. I chose this one over the Radar (same price range) because it offers an aux in so I can play along to my tablet. Let us know what you think about the Sonicake. Cheers.
Cool! Let's see if it works for you. Please keep in mind that I'm using an IR loader along with the Sonicake for an improved sound. Works flawless without it though.
I just backed this.
I also have a BluGuitar Amp1 and recently bought a Strymon Iridium. Horses for courses, but I’m pretty much covered, and once the Mod Dwarf drops in December, I’ll have way more than I need...
Wow, another interesting solution. Seems there is lot of ground to discover. Thx, did not know this one either.
This one is on my radar, simulates preamp and power amp with an effects loop in between, Cab-Sim, plenty of IO for a small footprint.
This, a couple couple of pedals, my power stage 170 and cab, done.
Now this looks interesting as well. Did not know this. Will have a look at it, thank you
Strymon Iridium specs look promising. USD$ 399
I'm looking at this as well. At the moment what flashes me the most is the direct feel of the all analog Sonicake which I hadn't felt for a long time. And I did not know, but was missing it. Just so much fun to play. The Iridium, nevertheless, is possibly a fantastic solution, but since it has the headphone jack, my delay (always on for me) would need to be in front of it, right?
Recently I have been looking at the new PSA 2.0 from Tech 21. I owned the original back in the days for about 10 years and somehow miss it. Alnong with the Source Audio Collider and the Binary IR loader this might be all I ever need. Just thinking loud ...
I also tried different solutions, among them the BluGuitar Amp1, but in the end I settled on the HotOne Britwind
I was looking at both, didn't want to go back to real cabs though. Did you like it better than the Amp 1?
My solution for the situation(s) you outline (in my case mostly any issues in rehearsal or on stage) is the Two Notes Le Lead preamp.
I was looking at these, too. This would be a solution if I one day I move on from the KPA, which I don't see coming. Great preamps as revies say. No way of running them without a powercord though?
I finally found something that works for me as a backup / flyrig / practising tool and I thought I'd share my trials and errors. Maybe it will save someone some money.
Guitarists are spoiled these days. My KPA sits on a shelf next to my desk. Connected via USB to my computer (thx for the editor), midi is connected, s/pdif, power, a guitar... to move the KPA means to unplug all these and later plug them back in. It also means carrying another bag besides the guitar. So I hear the call for a smaller footprint. But: Writing this also makes me laugh. When a was a teen I had to move my 4 x 12 cab plus a whole rack to our rehearsal room and back home – which was at least 3 times a week - plus many many gigs through the years. There simply wasn't an option, so we simply did this.
But, the first Pod (or in my case the Johnson J-Station) changed a lot. Having everything in one little package, headphone ready, was indeed great. Computers became more and more powerful and recording at home was beginning to happen for everyone. So these little devices absolutely made sense in that regard, too. After trying everything from Tonelabs (great) almost any POD (not for me) and everything in between, with the KPA came the quality for both clean and drive sounds. But guitarists are spoiled these days, so am I. I needed something smaller to take anywhere I would find time to play (for instance at my girlfried's place, my parents' house...)
Considerations & requirements
- A feel to it that keeps me playing: Most important.
- 2 sounds – clean / drive: All I need. Maybe even one would work.
- Delay and reverb: Never playing without, so a must.
- The fewer cables the better: Cables are from hell.
- Has to fit into my gigbyg AND my traveling bag (I keep a guitar at my girlfriends place anyway).
- Stereo: Discarded, found that this is not important as long as it comes from both sides of the headphone (which doesn't necessarily require stereo.)
- Headphone option: Of course.
- Battery powered: Partly discarded: Depending on the device a powerbank will do.
- Recording interface would be nice to have. Discarded: In the end I record at home with the KPA only.
- Drummer & Looper would be nice to have. Discarded: Aux in for tablet connection will do. I loop in my DAW.
- Aux in: Correspondingly necessary.
- Shouldn't cost a fortune (well, it did in the end somehow;)
- All in one would be great: Discarded, see below.
I tried (inter alia):
- A small board with high end effects - Great Sound & feel, but seemed oversized at one point – had to go.
- HX Stomp - Like the PODs – can do anything but didn't feel right (to me). Ended up more tweaking than playing. And I tend to option paralysis on the KPA already.
- Zoom G1on - Really great FX and clean tone – with drummer and looper für under 50 bugs. Didn't take pedals though - I didn't get a good drive sound.
- Mooer GE 200 - close to HX experience
In the end I found that a second setup besides the KPA has to be: Simple and effective. The Tech 21 Flyrig seemed almost perfect. I had been using a lot of Tech 21 stuff and always liked it – with the exception of the emulated speaker out. But IR-loaders are available in pedal-form these days, so this was an option. And by a lucky coincidence I stumbled across the
SONICAKE RockStage (+ Hotone Binary IR)
which is basically an analog preamp with digital chorus, delay and reverb (being blended into the signal without a digital conversion, think analog dry through) plus a hardware Cab-Sim (which can be turned off) all in a very tiny footprint – for under 80€. (There are also versions for a cleaner tone and for metal that differ slightly in their specifications.) I did some research on it and finally ordered the RockStage. Wow. While this might not be your favorite KPA sound in a box, it absolutely works like a charm. So good, that for the missing requirements I added an IR loader that provides headphone out and aux in. There are not many providing both in the relevant price range, but the Hotone Binary IR delievers. So the combination of these two is exactly what I was looking for:
- Feels great – Has this snap to it that feels like a slight amount of tube compression. Adding IRs makes it even better and more realistic.
- Reverb & Delay: Nice analog style delay with three parameters and a plate reverb with just one knob. WYSISWG, set and forget.
- (still) Versatile – Thanks to changing IRs, mics and poweramp tubes virtually there is variety.
- Takes drive pedals – Tried this and it works great. Set the preamp to clean and place any drive you want in front of it.
- Headphone & drummer: Along with a smart device, yes, thx to the aux in.
- Looks great – Metal housing, colored lights for each effect.
- Battery powered – Not really but will work with a powerbank.
- Small - Fits inside my gigbag as well as into my traveling bag.
- Gigging friendly - Haven't tried yet but wouldn't hesitate.
And again - in the end it's rather cheap: 200€ for both devices. So if anyone finds themselves in here, give it a try. It might work for you either.
Have a great weekend everybody.
cool stuff! tasty playing and tasty sounds.
Actually I don't believe they will come up with such a thing simply because it's not the idea behind the whole product concept. I might be wrong of course. Nevertheless I would love an (even smaller) form factor. But please, don't forget the digital output.
Hi, can you set all 8 buttons to switch slots, across different performances? Cheers, Greg
Sry, not sure. I think this would work using nrpn. You might want to check this to dig deeper:
Thomann controller is rebranded Meloaudio MA1010 controller.
You can download manual here
Yes, it actually goes under different brands.
Got one yesterday and tried it quickly. It does exactly what it is supposed to Didn't have to configure anything and it can be powered from the Kemper USB port, too.
In performance mode, the right-side Up/Down changes your performance.
And the ABCD buttons switch between the first 4 slots in a performance. Press C = Slot 3 is activated. Press A = Slot 1 is activated, etc.
The top row buttons 1-3 appear to toggle the profile Stomps/Stack/Effects settings (top row of the Kemper) on/off. Not sure what button 4 does with a Kemper.
The buttons themselves feel quite cheap and "wiggly", so I wouldn't expect it to last in a live setting. The unit however is very sturdy, like a Boss pedal. So you could probably just replace the push-buttons with better ones to make it a really strong controller
I had to return twice times because the software was faulty and wouldn't let me change CC commands to PC when in custom mode. Now that it works it's great for me, all I need + I can control my DAW from here.
After my profile journey I managed to only have 25 profiles left on my KPA.
It's just my perception, but I highly doubt an integrated market for profiles within an editor would be something kemper thinks is worth doing. I don't see the big need for that myself either.
Working for a (business-) software company myself marketplaces become more and more important (almost) regardless of what you're selling. Comparability of features and prices - especially for products and services that integrate third party products - at one central location is likely to become standard. RM (closer to an editor than business software) gives access to third party profiles already so it seems Kemper considers this well worth thinking about.
Other than that I agree.
Maybe K-Team is working on some kind of marketplace that integrates into the editor where you can test and directly buy from profile-providers that are willing to participate. So maybe any delay has completely other reasons than suggested by some. Just a thought.
That being said I keep staying away from this thread as it helps noone.
Great playing my friend and very nice sound.
Also keep in mind that not very few players that would sell their KPAs eventually return for some strange reasons . And as stated above, this might be a very good time for bying a used Toaster or Rack due to the introduction of the Stage.
In the end you have to be willing to find the right profiles that work for you. This might take some time (as it did in my case). But since I found my tones - no looking back. No more gasing for amps, stomps and fx for me. It's all in there.
I also had an technical issue but K-team was very helpful and the problem got solved.
Now I only want it smaller. But that's spoiled complaining at a very high level .