True i could use (yet) an expression pedal. But you cannot look at an expression pedal and reliable tell how many db attenuation it is at. I can do that with my box since the leds show it. And expression pedals can move etc etc.
Posts by Kim_Olesen
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Great that the issue is solved. I will have a look, why it did't work out of the box.
It worth mentioning however, that using an attenuator in an analog effects loop of a digital amp is a hilarious idea.
Beside gazillion other methods there is the Pure Booster available as a stomp effect, that can control the volume in the digital domain by the hit of a button
In NO way is it a strange idea. It is a box that has one click dial. And six leds. It can attenuate one db with each click. That means that at ALL times i can look over my shoulder and check what attenuation i am on. I canplay a sustained note, reach back and adjustWHILE PLAYING.now show me a solution where i can, at ALL times, see the level of attenuation on the front panel of the Kemper AND adjus it with one hand, on one knob, without having to look at a display that is hard to read fro certain angles, and still keep playing, and i will go along with the idea that it is stupid. But if you can't do that then please admit that it is a very handy solution for a problem everybody that plays in as many different situations/constellations as i do.
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Hi people. Since quite a few have asked I have uploaded (almost) all my rigs up on the rig exchange. They are all profiles of my JMP-1 and JMP-1 plus either Ibanez TS-10 or BOSS DF-2. Author name is: Kim Olesen
They were made for low output strats with single coils and you will find no metal sounds in here. Expect a cross between John Mayer and Mark Knopfler with some rockier sounds thrown in.
NOTE: I have my distortion sense at 5 because of the low output. You may need to adjust either gain or input sense accordingly.
I have no idea how they will sound with a humbucker guitar. Probably like crap
All cabinets are my costum built T-rex EM-1 speaker emulator box, so you probably wouldn't want to go all pure cabinet on them. All are 3,0 profiles so you can try different cbs if you wish to mess them up LOL
Another IMPORTANT note: My main outputs are set to: BASS: -1,3. TREBLE -1,2. Presence -1,2.
If you use a real guitar cab here are my monitor output settings (and remember cab off): BASS -1,5 TREBLE -1,0 Presence -1,0I have my delay locked so i have no idea if the delay will be on or off or even what kind of delay there will be on these rigs. Set the delay to what you like.
And then you probably think, yeah that is all fine but are those sounds good for gigging. Well i do, and since they are incredible close to my old rig these are the sounds that have kept soundguys (and me) happy for twenty years.
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Perhaps the OP is looking for a way to "pair" the CS and DS so that if you adjust one, you adjust both? That seems like a reasonable compromise for guys like me who just leave them both the same all the time anyway
That'd be fine with me. Or even easier to implement: Just an option to link them
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Simply awesome. A strange problem solved inside 5 hours. Best support i ever had on a product
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Fantastic cooporation from Kemper support. Thanks guys This is a problem that happens if direct out is set to master mono. If it is set to off (can only be done on a rig that doesn't have loop enabled) the send return works as expected
Problem solved, and i am happy.
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NRPN stands for "Non-Registered Parameter Number", just a different type of Midi message beside CC "Control Change" and PC "Program Change". Not all controllers can send them.
LOOOL that was a case study in mis-communication on my part. I meant: what NPRP messages do you use. I didn't mean: what is NPRP.
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Which Slot has the Loop? Have you tried Loop Mono instead of Loop Distortion?
Yes, support just asked me to check this. And i just did the ultimate test. Connected the input and the output of the loop with one cable. The volume burst as shown in the picture STILL happens. So it's not the loop switching late on. It must be coding error in the loop section.
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I still think you should try and test it with Performance Mode. If anything, it might exclude there being any relay error (if there's an improvement in switching time).
I don't think there are any mechanical relays in the Kemper. It'd be all software. I will see if i can get my head around performance mode, but it is not the way for me generally. But just to test if this is only in browse mode is a good thing that i'll do ofcourse.
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I'll arrange a mudbath boxing ring for you two so you can settle that. (there used to be one on the Reeperbahn in the old days i think).
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That's not what I meant. Just to test the loop function in the KPA and whether it is delayed (which would be odd behaviour) PUT something else in the loop - a different piece of equipment you have and see whether the looper is also delayed in this scenrio. If that is the case then there's something wrong. If it is not, the problem lies within the attenuator.
As i wrote in my initial post i already did. I tried with my mxr boster and could replicate the result. With one difference ofcourse. When the loop swotched on the sound got louder (since attenuators and boosters does the opposite of another)
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When you trigger the FX Loop, does it instantly illuminate the soft key on the front of the amp? Or is there a delay to that as well? If you just press the button on the front panel, is the light instantly engaged as well as the attenuator or boost?
If there is no delay to the light's illumination and it doesn't matter if you press the soft key on the front of the amp or not, then it sounds like a problem with a relay not firing fast enough. You'd need to contact support. You might also want to try switching from FX Mono to FX Distortion to see if that makes a difference at all.
If there is a delay when you trigger it from your controller, but not from when you press the button on the front panel, it may be that your MIDI controller isn't sending messages fast enough or is sending too many messages. I'd first try to replace the MIDI cable to see if it has a short (or repair it yourself if you know how). If that's not the culprit, dive into your MIDI settings on your controller (if there are any) and see if you can simply send a simple CC message only. Some controllers send, when triggering a preset, a PC message (hey, change the slot/rig/preset), as well as numerous CC messages (turn X effect on, turn Mod effect off, etc.) and, sometimes, even SysEx messages (system exclusive messages - they are longer, contain more data, and, by nature, slow). If you can turn SysEx off (if that's an option on your controller), that might be the key.
What controller are you using at the moment?
I can replicate this with ONLY program changes coming from my DAW. So it is NOT the foot controller. (It's a roland fc-200 btw)
There are no relays in the Kemper to my knowledge. I could ofcourse be wrong there.
I am using the "Loop Distortion" so i am sure there wont be any "mixing it with the direct sound" problems.
The attenuator has no on off mode. The box is always on, so it can't be the attenuator box being late.
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I haven't. But since i have aprox 30 sounds that i use regularly i don't think performance mode would be for me. I would need to setup performances for 200 songs. And some of these gigs are without setlists.....
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This is what it looks like:
What are theNPRP messages? -
What are you using to switch Rigs? Remote? Midi?
(og hvad er det, for et teater job? )
midi footswitch. In browse mode.(Shubidua musical på Frederecia teater)
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No. Nothing else patched in during this test.
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Since i play in MANY different constellations (different bands, substitute gigs, theater gigs, sessions etc etc) i always have an attenuator patched in on my lead sounds. I have this (and have had the last 15 years) because different bands, acoustic environments, soundguys, musical directors means different needs for lead rig volumes. It's not a programmable attenuator. It just has a volume knob for the attenuation so it just sits there. It has worked flawlessly in previous rigs where it has been sitting in my old loopswitching system. So i know it is not the attenuator playing games. And besides i can replicate the result with my mxr booster pedal in the send return anyway.
See the picture. The loop (and hence the attenuator) comes on late causing a burst in volume.
Now i have a theater gig coming up. It is a gig that is as big as they get in Denmark so i can't have the director/conductor complaining. That is one of those things that could mean that i do not get the gig next time.[Blocked Image: https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11223730_10152901659081577_759148893269118778_o.jpg]
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Thanks for your replys Joerck and Ingolf.
At the moments i don't use any rigs that i didn't profile myself so that's fine.
Actually, as i said, i put distortion sense where it us because that is where the gain matched the gain i got from my jmp1, since that is the amp i have been profiling -
Then please explain to me what the problem with setting the gain on didtortion sense to 5 when i play a guitar that has a very low output.
If it is just a setting that regulates gain, and i get the gain i want with that setting why should i change it now? What kind of problems could i experience if i leave it as it is?(i sometimes get the feeling that not many here plays regular strats with passive pickups nor understands that a humbucker can easily deliver MUCH higher output than a standard strat)
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You put Clean Sens and Distorted Sens into the same ballpark, which is not a good idea.
While Clean Sens will not cause you any problems (does it?), Distorted Sens will only serve special purposes. For what purpose do you use it?
I think I put distorted sense there because that gave me the same amount of distortion as the distorted direct amp profiles i made of my JMP-1.
But since i have done so many tweaks to the sounds during the last two weekends (totalling 5 gigs) and given that i got the Kemper more than a months ago, reprofiled my rigs three times (because only after i understood what merged profiles do, did i get it right) i might have just made a stupid decision with distorted sense early on and cannot remember now why i really did it.As to clean sense, i play a standard uas fender strat with only single coils. It is a pretty quiet guitar compared with any guitar that has humbuckers. So i used the input led as a guideline. I set input sense so that when i hit the strings hard it goes into yellow. That setting does not seem to give me problems.
So let me ask. At this point where i am beginning to be really happy with the sounds and have my rigs leveled (via rig volume) so they suit eachother, what will happen if i lower distorted sense?
Will i have to do the leveling all again?
Will i loose gain on my distorted profiles?