Interesting, I heard the Behringers sounded just as good. Would like to demo the profiles myself
Cool! Just buy the Behringer then!
Interesting, I heard the Behringers sounded just as good. Would like to demo the profiles myself
Cool! Just buy the Behringer then!
Yes, the key here in the video is the KSR (TUBE) power section…
Even with these two excellent DI boxes, I would say, through a 4×12 cabinet, the Kemper powerhead is about 80% accuracy of the amplifier it profiles.
Unless something changes or there is an update of some kind, We can hope for 95%!
For DI into 4x12 cab...
I’d say, even with these two excellent DI boxes, it’s 80% accuracy of reference amplifier.
It would seem that it will never get any closer unless something is updated or changed.
We can hope for 95% in the future!
whirlwind, 2 different Behringers ‘s, two different Radials, BAE, Avalon, A Design Reddi, JDZv, LR Baggs, Tech 21, MXR, Aguilar, Hotone, JHS...
There were a few more, I really can’t remember them all.
After extensive comparisons between 16 different DI boxes, I have sold / returned all but two…
Over the last 3yrs I did LOTS of DI Box experimenting…
So, I have kept the Countryman 85 and the Kemper DI Box.
These two are best and they are very very close, but they are both quite a bit better than the 14 other boxes that I have tried. The cheaper (in comparison) DI boxes give poor results for the most part.
I did some experimenting using one box right after the other with exact same amplifier settings… I am playing these back with my powered Kemper through a Bogner 4X12 cabinet loaded with ‘69 greenback speakers.
So, I have done DI profiles of a 1972 100 W Marshall head, completely stock, Master Vol on 9.
The countryman 85 Gives a very solid profile with a little more (slight) extended bass and presence frequencies. (extreme top and bottom).
If that is what you’re after, It’s the perfect unit.
However, the Kemper DI box gives a slightly (I’m cutting hairs here) more accurate profile with a ‘quicker’ attack and more of a natural ‘bounce’ to the feel / string attack of the reference amplifier. Interesting, the profile done with the Kemper DI box gives ‘8.9’ definition where is the profile done with the countryman 85 gives ‘8.0’ definition… I tried matching both but it drove the profiles further away instead of closer together.
The profile done with the Kemper DI box seems to track (cutting hairs here again) slightly faster and the notes come through the speaker cabinet quicker…
Conclusion ... it is well worth spending the extra $$ and getting one of these two DI boxes.
If you buy some cheap Behringer or XXXX DI box, in my experience, your profiles will not be as good / feel/ solid/ accurate as one of these. (One would never know, of course, unless they compared a cheap DI box with one of these…)
If you had to get just one, yes, the Kemper, in my opinion, is the top dog.
Cheers!!
Ecstasy Classic, YES!! ????
Absolutely brother! Just send me your email through a message and I can send you both and you can see what you think…
Just keep in mind, I have set these DI profiles up to sound best with a powered unit through a 412 cabinet with greenbacks…
It might be a little bit bright if you're running vintage 30s etc.
After extensive comparisons between 16 different DI boxes, I have sold / returned all but two…
I have kept the Countryman 85 and I have kept the Kemper DI Box.
These two are best and they are very very close, but they are quite a bit better than the 14 other boxes that I have tried. The cheaper (in comparison) DI boxes give poor results for the most part.
I did some experimenting using one box right after the other with exact same amplifier settings… I am playing these back with powered Kemper through a Bogner 4X12 cabinet loaded with ‘69 greenback speakers.
So, I have done DI profiles of a 1972 100 W Marshall head, completely stock, Master Vol on 9.
The countryman 85 Gives a very solid profile with a little more (slight) extended bass and presence frequencies. (extreme top and bottom).
If that is what you’re after, It’s the perfect unit.
However, the Kemper DI box gives a slightly (I’m cutting hairs here) more accurate profile with a ‘quicker’ attack and more of a natural bounce to the feel / string attack of the reference amplifier. Interesting, the profile done with the Kemper DI box gives ‘8.9’ definition where is the profile done with the countryman 85 gives ‘8.0’ definition… I tried matching both but it drove the profiles further away instead of closer together.
The profile done with the Kemper DI box seems to track (cutting hairs here again) slightly faster and the notes come through the speaker cabinet quicker…
Conclusion ... it is well worth getting one of these two DI boxes.
If you buy some cheap Behringer or XXXX DI box, in my experience, your profiles will not be as good / feel/ solid/ accurate as one of these.
If you had to get just one, yes, the Kemper, in my opinion, is the top dog.
Cheers!!
Sorry, double post
Not in the same way a tube amp would. Demoing both ways side by side there’s a clear low end difference and feel with a tube power amp vs. the powerhead.
Yes guitarguy, the ‘feel’ is another big part of it. That ‘nice light bounce’ that you feel from a tube amplifier is not replicated through the Powered Kemper with 4x12 cab.
Wow, hard to imagine this… the TC unit must be surprisingly good.
I’d also love to know how
I am experiencing very similar symptoms as Cederick.
Now, I love my powered Kemper. For live situations with in-ears, NOTHING beats it. It’s insanely good!
My DI profiles lack a ‘fullness’ and some low mids, around 250-400 khz range (if i were to guess) however, I am also experiencing added bass (60-120khz) and added extreme high frequencies.
I would say that it is 80% there.
I am using the same Bogner cab, same speaker cable, same guitar, guitar cable etc...
I am using either the Countryman Type 85 DI box or the Kemper DI box, both are the very best of the MANY I have tried (and returned)
I also am experiencing a slight gain increase in the final resulting DI profiles.
So, I accentuate the lower mids on the amp I am profiling and slightly cut the gain and presence.
This gets me to 80%, which still blows me away. It’s very good!
Just a bit different.
It would be INCREDIBLE to get it closer though
I swore one of the First four reverbs had a pre-delay that you could set at 1/4, 1/8 etc. Now I can’t find it…
I think I should just go to bed and start over tomorrow,
OK, I found it
Remember, 35 years with the Marshall… Six freaking knobs - that’s all I had to worry about!
OK, I really really feel stupid right now… I have KPI hooked up to rig manager and when I go to system I don’t get anything that says what you guys are talking about…
Go into the system settings and reload the rigs. I had the same issue. Should have a bunch of verbs
hey Nick, Do you mean in rig manager?