Posts by hackowl

Quote from slateboy

so the average thing- the more taps you give the “better” the tempo results from taking an average. That makes sense and sounds like a logical and good idea.

However could it be that as well as the kpa establishing an average the player also settles into a more regular pulse and also delivers their average as they settle into the groove? Part man part machine effort.

I thought about this at this weekends gigs and to be honest i don't have much time to balance on one leg and tap out a tempo for much more than 3 or 4 beats. Its just not practical, especially as we, the musicians, move around the stage as part of the act.

If upon loading a new rig/slot there is some “settling” time required before a steady tempo can be established then i need an alternative more reliable solution. I often need the tempo set immediately following the one bar count in.

If anyone gets chance, try this, get someone (or something) to tap a new/different regular/stable tempo immediately following a slot change. Tell us how long it takes to follow the “new” tempo.

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I commented the same problem few posts ago. If I kept sending taps right after changing the preset, it took a long time to get the tempo.

Quote from ckemper

The tremolo effect is a different beast. Here it's about the tempo AND the alignment to the beat, similar to an arpeggiator.

The tempo engine has a special feature for realigning the tremolo: Whenever you press TAP after a certain time on a downbeat, the tremolo will shift to the timing of that tap smoothly. But don't tap too often, as it would sense it as a new tempo. Perfect is to place a single tap sometimes at the beginning of a new bar, even every bar is fine.

Now this goes to hackowl. In many years we had no user syncing the timing of the tremolo to an external midi clock and reporting problems. But it does not work right the way you use it. I just took the time to look into the tremolo code and was happy to have fixed a quirk a few minutes ago. While the tremolo always played the correct tempo, it was easily going of beat, as you have showed up. Please check the next upcoming software update and tell me your experience!

CK

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You can't imagine how happy I am to read this. I was going crazy with the tremolo.

If you also get the TAP button light to illuminate with the tempo, for me you would be a god.

Now I have a question about the correct way to use the tremolo once I update the kemper. Assuming that I play on a metronome at 195bpm, I select a preset with the same tempo, with the efffect X (tremolo) turned off.

If I press once on the TAP to synchronize the beat, will it be synchronized when I activate effect X, and if so, will it be synchronized the rest of the time, regardless of what I play?

And if not, what is the best way to make the tremolo coincide perfectly with a song played on metronome in a particular part.

Greetings and a million thanks for your time, and your work ...

I am still amazed with such efficient support.

Quote from kpahuitsing

hackowl: I think maybe this is not a problem of 'tempo' / 'speed' but more a matter of 'phase' or 'beat': you want the tremolo to be 'in-beat' with your song, and would need a way to sync the '1' . At this moment I'm not sure how to do that, and if it's even possible with the tremolo effect at all.. will do some diggin'

Thanks for your answer.

One of my intentions sending the taps via cc30 is to tell the kemper where the "click" of the song is (obviously it is perfectly synchronized with the song). But ... it still doesn't fit.

Another thing that I found curious, is that, if you do not stop sending the cc30 messages and change preset, it takes a long time to approach the tempo ... this I saw the other day by chance and I did not pay attention and , maybe i am wrong, I will check it quietly these days.

Thanks for help!!!!!

First of all, thanks for your answers, it's great to have such a communication.

I have reached the point of sending the TAPs via midi cc30 because the biggest problem is that, even setting a rig with the same time of the song, I have problems in the parts where I use the tremolo (activating / deactivating the effect) .

I will give a direct example so that you understand exactly what I mean.

I play this song from my group at 195bpm:

From the beginning I use a rig set at 195bpm with a tremolo in effect X (off) set to be as hard as possible.

When the tremolo part arrives (2:02), I activate X effect and practically there is always a deviation that is usually corrected when I continue playing.

I have also tried, at the same time, to switch to a preset with the tremolo already active ... sometimes it goes better than others ... but I don't get something that is 100% effective.

The only thing left for me to try is to use a kemper remote or other midi pedalboard to see if there is any kind of delay in my controller ...

Thank you so much for helping.

Quote from kpahuitsing

can you elaborate this 'disaster' ?

when (in what scenario) do you have problems with 'the tempo' ?

and how did you spent a year on this?

Hello! I give you an example.

With a mega arduino board, I send 4 pulses via midi CC30 every 500ms. I monitor the time from the arduino itself and make sure they are 500ms (120bpm) accurate, without any deviation.

Well, the kemper, sometimes 120bpm, sometimes 119.x ... other 118.x other 121 ... NEVER is the same deviation even though the signal arrives with absolute precision.

Imagine that in a moment of a song with constant tempo, a guitar is left alone with a tremolo that lasts 10 seconds ...

And over a year I have inflated to read, I have sent the tempo directly by midi, I have sent it just when I wanted to start the cycle, before, after ... I have sent taps more or less frequently, I have tried changing the preset in time, I added a morph function to the effect (tremolo in my case) and control it with an expression pedal to see if it fit better ... obviously I have not been 365 days doing tests, but I started with this problem a year and I have not stopped consulting forums and testing since then.

I am not the only one affected, I recently contacted another person with the same problem, and I have read similar cases.

Thanks for answering!

The tap tempo of the kemper, or rather, everything about the tempo in kemper is the biggest disaster in history.

I've been testing for a year (including external controllers, synchronizing it with a continuous and precise external tap ... etc etc).

It is a disaster.

any solution? :_(