Posts by Terence T

Quote from ashtweth

Guys lets just give this one more try, if we can
okay thanks for the answer lets put this in perspective.

1) You did get a good sound on your Strat?
This makes me suspect that your kemper is not defective
even if it was keep in mind the mother ship usually sends you a new one (just saying)

2) You Stated that you get a good sound from a friends marshal/vox/mesa
BUT have not profiled that sound or made any DI's
But are willing to.

This makes me suspect the LP sound you lack needs the right rig /tweaking and could even turn out to be a profiling issue (needing to get it right thats all)
Bands From killswitch engage to Duran Duran and 100's of other artist can get CLOSE to that sound they profile which is why they use it professionally

So the kemper is not "crap" i am not saying that you cant tweak for crap, but i suspect thats the loop hole here AT THIS STAGE.
CK thinks its not defective, unless its the beer i read that you did get a good sound on your strat.

I am going to send you a package IN THE MEAN TIME,(until you do the DI thing) for your LP, i still dont know what sound your after still so i am only going on the Friedman amp, il get some mesa's/vox and marshal sounds over also to try.

But dont waste any more time, DI the marshal/vox/mesa sound YOU like, you will get close to 95% (i say 99) JUST LIKE 100's of other artists who professionally use the toaster. I dont think your kemper is defective at this stage.

Ash

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A pro studio could take a POD HD and get better results than me. I think the comparison with a pro studio isn't an accurate one, as I'm not a pro studio or engineer and most of us here are not.

And don't forget, many pro studios and players are sticking to miking amps.

Thanks in advance for sending the package.

Quote from Symec24

Handling error, I reckon.

Just sell it already and let someone else be happy with it...

The classic Line 6 fanboy response.

Quote from bsd512

Factory reset, also? Sorry, I've read through the thread, but I may have missed it - it's getting kind of long.

Yes. The last clips posted which Mr Kemper commented on, were made after a complete factory reset.

Quote from Behind

I am sorry but I cannot stand you constantly considering yourself a victim of a rip off when you know you haven't tried all options yet. Your attitude seems more like the one of a person who wants to give bad credit to a product more than the one of a person who needs an actual solution.

Just take this into consideration:

- The Kemper Profiler can sound exactly like your beloved Marshall and, virtually, any amp you want. Just make a decent profile and you'll see the results.
- The profiler is a professional device used by studios, producers and musicians all around the world. They all adore the unit. I doubt you have better ears than them.

With that said, please be humble and stop saying that you have been ripped off before trying all the possibilities.

Also, if you are not able to create some DIs, you can use other DIs (internet is full of them) through a public profile so we can do the same and see if your device is wrong.

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I'm not insulting your beloved Kemper, and if you didn't like my Marshall it wouldn't bother me. We're not kids in a playground. It was wasted money for me, but not for you. Good for you, I'm happy that others aren't having the same difficulties I am. And I wasn't saying I have better ears than anyone.

However all that have commented on my clips, apart from Mr Kemper, say the same. Its not sounding good.

The Kemper may sound exactly like any amp you want for you, for me that hasn't been the case.

Now, unless some of you are rich you know what being a musician is like. You spend all of your money on music, including money you don't have. When I said I felt ripped off, its because I've spent a lot of money on a piece of gear that isn't delivering. Sorry if my experience is annoying for you. But I do think its insecure to want everyone to love something you love, and get annoyed when they don't.

Quote from bsd512

I may have missed it, but two questions:

1) What are you playing your Kemper through? Make and model would be great.
2) How are you recording it? Again, make and model of your interface would be great here, too.

If I were you, I would reset my Kemper back to factory defaults. Who knows, maybe in all the trouble shooting you might have inadvertently adjusted something that is causing this - perhaps and output level or something, that is overloading whatever you are sending your Kemper output into, might be a possibility.

Double check *everything*. Most likely, the problem is between your guitar and the Kemper, or between the Kemper and however you are monitoring and recording. If you still have problems after a Kemper factory reset, I'd say that definitely leads to the problem being either before or after the Kemper. And maybe both - those are sometimes the hardest problems to solve, when multiple problems exist. Don't discount that.

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Thank you, but I've done all of that earlier in the thread. Answered the questions also.

RME Fireface UC.

Gibson LP Studio, Fender Strat CP 50's, Fender Strat Highway 1.

Quote from Atlantic

Are you sure the T is not for Troll?

So someone disagrees with you and they are a troll? Are you that thin skinned?

Quote from ashtweth

I still have not been told WHAT the tone is on the LP that he is after, give me a song or example , out of the 5,000 rigs i have in RM (my RM takes 3 mins to load ) I can tell you i can find this sound. Whilst my asshole points to the ground i can tell you i have it. Do the DI thing too dont get me wrong, but what is the tone or sound you want just send me a clip or pm already please.

Ash

I've answered this earlier.

I'm after quality tone. Once again I'll explain. I plug my guitar my Marshall or a friends Messa, Orange, Vox, I get a good quality tone. I plug into my Kemper, I do not. If you look through this thread I've given details on the profiles used, some members have been kind enough to mail me profiles to try. I've gone through all the suggestions listed here and it hasn't made a difference.

I'm away right now, when I get back I'll try the DI suggestion. But in light I've what I've experienced so far, I think its more probable than not that this isn't going to solve the problem. Mr Kemper has listened to my clips and pretty much said that that is the way a Kemper sounds. I'm inclined to believe him.

My experience so far has indicated that for £1,400 I've been chronically ripped off. Wish that wasn't the case, but that's where I am today.

Quote from ColdFrixion

I respect his opinion, but he's not infallible.

He's the only one on this thread who thinks my clips are ok. No disrespect Mr Kemper, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Quote from MuddySludge

T. Apparently you can play loud enough on the Marshall to know it sounds good yet you won't try a profile on it.So buggin the neighbors excuse is bullshit
These guys sincerely want to help you but I think you're just fuckin around for the hell of it.
Post something or Quit please.
You have proven one thing though, Lots of good hearted people own Kemper's.

Actually, the Marshall sounds good at low volumes to me. I never said anything about having to crank my Marshall to get a good tone. Take it easy mate, you don't have to post if your getting annoyed. You may not like my amp, I wouldn't hold it against you. We can all have different tastes in gear.

When I can, I'll post the DI track. You said the same thing about me not posting samples. I did post samples and if you look back on the thread, Mr Kemper himself said that it sounds good to him, and there's nothing wrong with the Kemper.

Quote from crankyrayhanky

I have a TNL & a Kemper.
They both sound fantastic! Depending on the day, I think one chain is better than the other, but the real truth is either would work well for my hi gain stuff.

I get the general impression that they sound similar. Massive price difference though. I would have save £1,000 by getting a loadbox. Could have got a new head and a load box, for the price I paid. I'll probably annoy many people by saying this, but I do feel I paid too much for the Kemper, considering the results I'm getting.

Quote from sambrox

@ the OP
The trouble is, tone is subjective. If you like the sound of your guitars through your amp, that’s your tone. Whether another amp or guitar costs 10 times as much doesn’t matter, if you don’t like the tone. Hence why I and others have suggested you profile your amp.

Many people love MBritt profiles. However, there are some on the forum that just can’t get along with them. Is it because they’re rubbish? Or is something wrong with those users’ Profilers? No, they just don’t get along with MBritt’s tone. It’s sounding more and more like that might be the case with you, though I admit that your first clip sounded off to me.

Most of the results I've been getting sound a bit off to me. I have been getting some ok results on occasion, then I get back to this wall.

Some people may like a Boogie but not a Marshall and vice versa. I think we can agree though, that's personal taste as they are both excellent amps. This isn't a case of that's a good tone but not for me, I'm struggling to get a good tone.

If I play through my Marshall, its instantly good. I may adjust the EQ but that's not because it sounds bad. If I play through my Kemper, I'm dialing just to get it to sound good. I have to go through tons of profiles to get a usable sound, not just a good sound.

Quote from stfuzz

Yes. I was working with Load Boxes for quite some time. Afterwards with Attenuators and multiple mic setups. And I had a lot fun with changing the mics, buying new mics, change the mic position, add a room mic, etc.
I can recommend going through this process because you can learn a lot about frequencies, sounds, and equipment.
Then a friend introduced the kemper to me. And I was like: Are you kidding me!? Digital? No way!! I‘ll take a shortcut now: After 10 month of research and A/B comparison I gave up and bought one.
The much easier and cheaper access to amps and the fact that you can change your whole setup with a fingersnap was convincing to me. I’ve got much more time now to be creative with my guitars than before. The only contra for me so far is that I move less and put on weight. Ok, thats a lie.

I can recommend to watch the kemper video when Uwe Bossart and Tim Pierce are profiling Tims amps. It‘s impressiv.
And I can also highly recommend the video of Johann Segeborn when he is testing a bunch of greenbacks with one amp, one cab, one git and one riff. That can be an ear opnener as well.

Good luck!

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Thanks for that insight.

Would you say that your getting better results than using load boxes/mike, or at least on par with the benefit of saving time?

I'll check those vids out. But there's plenty of vids around where people are getting better results than me, using the same gear. Look at Pete Thorne, his demos are outstanding. Would I get the same sound with the same gear? Not even close. Before the Kemper I went and bought a UAD Apollo with UAD plugins. I watched a video which claimed, 'this is the sound you'll get, without eq or compression. Just plug in and play.' In my setup, it sounded terrible. UAD had absolutely no answer or suggestions when I sent them clips. So I sent the interface back, and I wont be using UAD again.

My point is, many of these youtube vids aren't very helpful for the average player (that's me) with a humble living room setup. I'm not going to get the same results with my Kemper hooked up to my PC via RME interface, as Pete Thorn does with a laptop and VST's.

I'm forever looking for the magic button, the missing technique to my recording. Be great if someone could release a video on that!

Its not possible in my living situation to record my amp, which is why I got the Kemper. What I'm thinking of doing eventually, is making a cupboard into an iso booth and miking the amp.

As for profiling my own amp, is that going to sound any better than the profile of a much more expensive amp, profiled by a professional? One of the big selling factors of the Kemper, is that I can have access to amps I wouldn't have access to otherwise.

For those of you that do mike your amp or use a load box, are your results better or worse? Would love to hear side by side comparisons. I don't expect a load box or mike to sound considerably better with my skill level, however a mike is £200, a load box around £500. That's nearly a thousand pounds saved going with those options. I've read other forums where people who already mike/load box their amps are splashing out the cash on a Kemper. For those of you that did that, was it worth it?

Anyway, like I've been saying I've taken the plunge and will keep swimming for a while.

DI tracks to come shortly.

Quote from V8guitar

Feel for you, must be so frustrating. I don't think it is that the Kemper is not for you because I think most people here agreed the sound clips weren't quite right.

Ultimately that doesn't help you though, we'll keep trying as long as you do...

I'll keep trying with it. The new price has just dropped by a £100 in the UK which means they'll be selling used for less now. So I'll give it to the end of this year, as I'll be losing money selling it used.

Damn, knew I should have got that new Marshall head and load box....

Quote from ColdFrixion

As a last ditch effort, I'd try recording a DI of your Les Paul, upload it here and let another user re-amp it through their Kemper. You'll at least find out whether it's the Kemper or your guitar.

Thanks, yeah I'll give that a go. Its not sounding great with all three of my guitars though, so both the strats as well as the LP. The strats sound better than the LP, but only on the bridge pick ups. All guitars sound great through my Marshall JCM 2000.

Quote from sambrox

The last thing would be to profile your amp(s), if they’re sounding good in a recording. That is, after all, the reason the KPA was conceived and created in the first place, otherwise you may as well stick to VSTs.

VST's for me sound awful with distortion/high gain. Thats one of the reason why I bought the Kemper. The next step for me is to try load boxes with an amp head, A Marshall JVM head and load box costs about the same as a Kemper.

Latest update, I've gone over all the info here and tweaked for many hours.

Fact is, I'm still at the wall. I've given up on trying to record the Les Paul, my strats sound ok at the bridge position. I'm pretty much at the same wall I was at with my old POD. I'm sticking to it for now, but its all tweaking and little recording, and I paid a lot of cash to not do that.

I'm keeping an open mind and hoping to see the light, but I'm not sure what else there is to try here.

It just may be the case that the Kemper isn't for everyone. I may get new monitors in a few months, but everything that sounds good/bad through my headphones sounds the same with my current monitors

Haven't had a chance to look over the replies in detail, but would just like to thank everyone for being so helpful.

This clearly is a different kind of forum, and has helped me to keep trying with the Kemper.

Cheers all.

Quote from ckemper

That sounds much better.
Definition high and using the bridge pickups drastically change the sound to the better, I think.
Anyway, you have your guitar tone control all the way up?

The Les Paul, neck PU 9 and bridge 7.5.

The Strat, neck 10, bridge 4.5.

So the Kemper is doing its job correctly?
The LP sounds normal through my Marshall, I could take it to a luthier and have it checked to make sure.

Classic Player 50's strat, same settings. Pick ups switch on first(treble) setting, then middle position, then 5th position.

Have a strat with hot pickups also.