Each performance has 5 slots:
CC50 with any value triggers slot 1 in that performance.
CC51 with any value triggers slot 2
CC52 with any value triggers slot 3
CC53 with any value triggers slot 4
CC54 with any value triggers slot 5
Yes. You need to send two messages- but this makes it a lot EASIER to lay out your performance changes, even mid song.
So, you create a performance per song, and then within that performance you can have slots assigned to intro, verse, chorus, solo, outro - whatever you want.
k- this is all in the manual, btw. EDIT: Starting on page 208.
PS: How did you come up with 25?
no. program numbers 0-127 will *only allow you to access the first 128 performance *slots*.
If you want to access all of your performances, you need to use a combination of MIDI CC#47 to select the performance) and CC50-54 to select on of the 5 slots in each performance.
Now you need the mic to be live for that kazoo someone is playing, well, it's not coming back until the wifi recovers.
And may it recover slowly. The audience will bow and pay to Bob Khan.
Why not create a profile of the amp?
Now if you have a X32 with the actual physical controls, I don't think it makes it that risky. That being said, a dedicated wifi router is probably more robust than the mixer built-in one.
So the tablets / phones to adjust the personal mixes would connect to the mixer through the wifi router, NOT directly to the mixer wifi access point.
It is an issue with the X32 Rack - no physical controls.
FYI- the X32 doesn't have built in wifi- so a router is required. And good advice about the one hardwired connection. I don't do this personally (we play small enough venues that it's never been an issue) but my last band with an XR18 had the problem of dropouts on the tablets. It never dropped my laptop, but still. Very good advise.
One more thing. Sorry for the multiple posts - but about the app:
We also have dedicated tablets for this - they're all cheap Asus android tablets. I've used kindle fires too for this. I stick with the Android stuff because that way I can run MixStation Pro on all of the devices. It's a LOT more reliable than whatever behringer provides.
It is my understanding that the initial version of the 'free behringer app' was made by the same guy who did mix station pro.
I also run X32 Edit on my MacBook for emergencies.
I've got a follow up question for you. I've seen many people say they can control their X32 with the ipad/iphone app while out on tour, but when I look at tutorials it looks like you need to hook it up (the X32) to a router and get an IP address and all this other jazz that I can't imagine is readily available at any old venue. So how is this connection accomplished without the wifi signal? Or is it just the case that you need to have a wireless router hooked up to the X32 Rack - no internet connection required, just something to be the middle man between the Console and your phone/iPad?
k- I can cover that too. There's a Wifi router Velcroed to the back of my mixer rack. You *never ever* rely on the venue's wifi. Always roll your own. That way you can (a) configure the router to give all of your devices the same IP address and (b) nobody's gonna mess with your connection.
No internet connection is needed. You're creating a wireless local network to connect your devices through.
I'm getting ready to introduce two new pieces of equipment into our live set. One being my KPA - which I've used once at practice straight into the PA. Sounds great!
The other piece i'm putting into motion soon is an IEM rack that will send everything input into a mic splitter (2 ART S8's) which will have one half of the split going to the X32 and the other side going to FOH.
As far as getting my Kemper into that mix - I'm assuming I could go either mono/stereo out to the splitter. I've seen other people say that I need to go monitor out to the IEM and send the stereo mains to FOH. Any opinions on this? I haven't attempted to hook everything up yet and wanted to see if anyone has a similar setup!
X32 Rack. I'm running *main outs* to the S8. My monitor outs are unused for live stuff - but I have a usb hub and a usb sound card *in the rack* so if I need to track anything I just plug my usb in and I'm done.
Top to bottom:
Kemper - the patch panel below it is custom - it has a USB pass through to the hub (which then has the Kemper a sound card and a Roland UM - ONE midi dongle attached. Next to the USB pass through are the midi in, out and thru. Next to MIDI are the main outs L & R. Next to that is an ethercon jack for the remote, and then finally is a jumper between my wireless (mounted in the back of the rack) and the input. (I find the alt input too noisy for my tastes).
Below that - power, our MOTU Midi time piece (which drives my Kemper changes via MIDI, and will soon also drive the lights once I get around to it). Below that: Wireless mic (receiver), 2x IEM transmitter (for me and our bass player). Both of these are in stereo, and connected via a snake to the lower rack).
In the bottom rack - 16 channels of splits by way of 2x ART S8s, a 1/4" patch bay (which is labeled for the tracks but we've changed the routing on the X32 so I don't need those any more) and then our IEM out puts.
On the back of the big rack - 2x 16 channels of XLR (P16) patches - one set are the S8 outs for FOH mapped 1:1. I give the FOH the directs - and keep the transformer isolated side for myself. (unless I need phantom power for the overheads and I just rewire those two channels)
, the other set covers our PA outs - FOH, Monitors (2 pairs), Tracks out (For when we don't do a full mix ourselves), and the drummer's IEMs (he's wired).
I got mine from the Kemper store. Took a little while to ship (but not Kemper's fault), but they had them in stock and it went out right away. I can't see myself selling it w/o selling the Kemper too.
On that note, can't really see me selling the Kemper at all.
When you’ve got nothing, what’s to lose?
Initiative and not taking nothing for an answer? Worth quite a lot.
The fine line between 'asset' and 'pain in the ass' I guess...
Am hiring manager- this would move my file directly to the blue bin under my desk - especially for the role of social media manager... but, then again I don't work at Kemper. Maybe they like that- who am I to say?
lol. I'm sure posting about their lack of response to your social media manager application and calling them unprofessional on their forum will get you exactly the response you're expecting.
Good luck with that.
From a business perspective - *not* releasing an UnProfiler model - especially if it's cheaper - is smart.
See, every profiler can profile amps. This is why there are nearly 16,000 amps in rig manager - with probably thousands and thousands more for commercial sale.
This means that every user can contribute to the marketplace. This is what makes the product 'sticky' - every user can become a profile guru if they want. In the early days of Kemper, they could very easily have marketed it as a 'modeller' - release it with 6-10 amp models (like the others did/do) and then add to the 'model' base over time themselves. The technology makes this very easy- and it would still have been pretty impressive. But... by allowing users to add their own profiles and providing a rig marketplace to share them- then the possibilities are literally endless.
How many models does a fractal have? 200? Helix? Atomic? They're all limited to the amount of time the company can spend developing the models.
Even if Fractal bought Studio Devil, and then Line 6 bought Fractal, they'd still be at 1/10th of the number of amps currently available to Kemper users *today* - and it just keeps growing.
Kemper put the creation of amps in the hands of the users. This was *smart*. It allowed the Kemper Community to grow the functionality of the device stratospherically.
A cheaper Kemper-lite would mess up the mix. IMHO.
I currently have a Mimiq Doubler pedal running through my effects loop. It’s all working exactly as it should. But I’m finding that I really like the sound of it in my in-ears but not so much through the mains. So what I’m wondering is, is there a way for me to be able to ONLY have this effect in my ears and not through the fronts?
No. Well, yes. But no.
The only way I can think of to do this is to have the mimiq between your Kemper and your ears. Not in the loop.
OMG, of course. Totally forgot that. Good Catch.
Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor is not an Intel x86/x64 compatible processor. They speak different languages. Rig manager would need to be compiled to run on it.
I'm not aware of a way to make this work.
I bought a Kemper back in August of 2017, had it for about 2 weeks and ended up returning it. At the time I had an Axe FX 2 XL, and felt that the AFX was more versatile because you could create elaborate patches, and dial in amps exactly how you want them.
I am now realizing that versatility was more of a hindrance. All I ended up doing was noodling, changing presets, noodling some more. I realized that most of the amps sounded similar. At the end of the day Clean tone was a clean tone, gain was gain, etc.
I sold the AFX 2, and bought a Axe Fx 3 last week. Only spent 2-3 days with it until I came to the same conclusion as above. I ended up returning it (and losing money on shipping in the process but whatever). And overall to be honest I was never happy with the tones of the AFX 2 or 3. I remember Kemper sounding a bit more realistic.
I'm thinking of giving a Kemper another shot. However I have some concerns:
1. I will get caught up in profile changing hell. I'm a very simple guitar player and just want to plug n play. Last time I had a Kemper I found myself doing the same thing as the AFX, changing profiles, noodling for a bit, changing again, etc. I pretty much just need a good clean, good crunch, good high gain.
2. The age of the unit is getting up there and I feel for some reason that a new hardware revision is coming within the next year. The last thing I want to do is spend a crap ton of money only for a new unit to come out, and me having to sell at a loss to pickup the new unit (I always like having the latest and greatest, and if I know a newer unit exists, it bothers me). I would love to get a used unit to help offset money lost, but with me being burned both times by the AFX 2 and 3 because I had to buy before I tried, I don't want to make this same mistake again. Selling anything is a huge hassle if I don't like it. This means I will have to buy full price from Guitar Center since they have a 45 day return policy. This further concerns me when you take into account the age of the kemper, new devices being released by competitors, etc. It just seems like a KPA 2 is within 1-2 years away.
3. Not sure whether to get a powered or non-powered unit. The main use case would be quiet apartment practice, and occasional recording. I do own a marshall 4x12 and like the idea of having the flexibility of plugging the kemper into it, but wondering if I realistically will ever do it, and if it even sounds good. The main draw of the Kemper is the complete profiled tones and that includes the profiled cabs which I'd be missing out on plugging into a real cab.
4. I had issues with volume levels in my apartment. You can read my last thread back in 2017 where I talked about this. Rereading that thread, it seemed like I couldn't get the unit past 0.2-0.3 on the master volume which seems wrong. I remember on such low levels, the gain/distortion profiles were extremely loud. I have JBL 305's that I have the volume full up on. This time around however I would be plugging the Kemper into a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 via SPDIF, and then direct monitoring from the 6i6 into the monitors. The 6i6 has the Monitor knob on the front that I could probably use to tame the volume but i don't know.
5. Is it overall even worth it? My goal is just to get inspiring tones at home. Im a bedroom player, I don't have a band and have no interest in that. All I do is noodle at home and play with backing tracks. Occasionally record and create "beats" using guitar as the main instrument, using guitar rig 5. I'm wondering if I should just get a Yamaha THR10 and call it a day? I have enough to either buy just a powered kemper, or get an unpowered kemper AND the THR10. Or like I said, just get a THR10 and call it a day?
Any insight and advice would be appreciated.
1) - that's on you. You'll have the same problem with ANY modeller or the Kemper. Wanna have some REAL fun? Dive into impulse responses. That's a bottomless pit of despair all it's own.
2) Ugh- this comes up every so often. Look, there's new firmware coming this summer - 6.0 was just released to beta. 7.0 sometime while the sun shines warm. New Rig Manager too. Kemper Kone is coming as well. The profiler has SO much life left in it. The big difference here is this: Fractal, Line 6, Atomic have to release firmware to introduce new amps. Kemper does not. There are at present over 15,000 amps profiled just in rig exchange alone. Find the ones you like and go from there. See point 1.
How's this- the most coveted tube amps have been LONG out of production, and the Kemper can profile them accurately. So what if Kemper releases K2 one, two or three years from now? It doesn't immediately invalidate your profiler. It's still an amazing piece of kit.
3) I play live- and record. I went with the unpowered. Live I go straight to the FOH. In the studio, straight to the board. I do have an FRFR cab that I can use if I want to- and I've used it exactly ONCE - and that's only because I was doing work on our mixer rack. If you're a bedroom player, skip the powered and go for the 'naturally aspirated' model.
4) see point 3. And dude- headphones. over ear, closed back for studio work.
5) Only you can answer this question. Just like how only I can tell you if my Kemper is worth it to ME. So- with ME- I still have my mesa boogie, but it hasn't been powered on in ages. I don't even feel the need to profile it.
If you're looking to justify the purchase: Yes. Totally worth it.
If you're trying to be talked out of it: Yes. Totally worth it.
But that's just me. Your mileage will vary.
I use a gator (long) 4U. I made a patch panel for the front, so everything connects through there. In the back, I have power, my wireless, and a small USB hub with midi (that I plug into the front patch panel) and an audio interface (connected to monitor outs) in case I need/want to track something quickly.
I was thinking of bumping it up to a 6U so that my remote will fit in it, but I have a separate case for that anyway so...