Cool thanks. But what is rat pedal?
This dreamy bubbly creamy delicious fuzz sound... Any tips on how to get it?
How do you guys fix this then? I have a pretty new Focusrite Clarett, and the input is set to 0db on all channel. I don't have this pro thing you guys are talking about
Monkey_Man I am actually getting pretty hot signals when I am recording directly from the amp.. But when I am reamping, that's when the signals are very weak. Which I find very very strange
Ah I see. Hmmm.. How are people really recording in studio with the Kemper if it's not possible to acheive this? A reamped track at -16db is way way too low.. My DI output level is already pretty high as it is. I am very interested in hearing how people are recording with the Kemper, and why it does not have a way of getting good signals out. I figure for that price tag, that would at least be a minimum?
No that doesn't work. I always set my DAW at 0db gain. I need the hard input to match about -6db. I can't get it that high without having to adjust Rig Volume, and this feels wrong.. The reamp sens doesn't do anything. I maxed it and still it doesn't affect the input gain volume.
When I reamp, the DI can get correct levels on input. I just turn up clean sens and my DAW will capture it at a wanted loudness.. But the reamp is always stuck at -16db.. Can't seem to get it any higher unless I adjust RIG VOLUME. But is this the correct way of doing it to amp up the gain?
Yes I used to do mic and DI before, many many years ago when I did recording back in the old ancient days I actually tried it yesterday.. I reamped and generated three different amped tracks, tried to pan them out and add a little bit of delay so they seperate.. I think I am hearing phasing, but I'm not sure
So I tried recording with my AKG P200 and ran an insane compressor on it afterwards.. I got it to sound exactly how I wanted! Thanks for the tip guys.. So lesson learned to never ever record acoustic guitar with DI
Thanks for the nt1a tip. Because all of the mics I've been watching has been way too expensive.
Thanks guys. paults I don't have an API 525, but judging by his first comment, he only mics the guitar? So no DI at all here? I have a rusty old AKG Perception 200, I don't know if it can compete with the U87 or the more expensive ones.
I'd never DI an acoustic when recording but if you're set on it, record it and a few mics too. You don't need to use them all in the final mix and you can pick whichever combination works best.
The problem I have when mixing is that my initial assumption when recording is that the sound is good. And then I spend several hours mixing and making it sound OK. And in the process I spend so much time listening to the track that it becomes familiar to only me. And because I can hear myself "deaf" on my own mix, I then later finds out that I could have done it better.. That's why I ask here before going down that road, so I know the best basis for success before starting.. If miccing is that much better in the end, I'd rather do it right from the start.
I'm in the process of recording our last alt-rock song before sending it to master. This particular song has a very familiar vibe as the Coldplay - Yellow song has. The intro acoustic guitar on the Coldplay song is very heavily compressed and lows gone, and that type of sound would fit perfectly in our track!! All the guides and online tips suggest that I should record one track with DI and one track with a condenser microphone on fret 12.. But my own logic says I can just settle with a DI recording through my Kemper for this particular usage.. That I don't need an extra micced track to mud up my mix.. If you listenin to Coldplay - Yellow, would you say the Kemper alone can achieve this, or would you have a micced track aswell? If only Kemper, should I go DI cab bypass, or should I run it through a simulated amp?
We all got "shit ears". Take Steven Wilson for example, he records and masters everything himself, but for his guitar part, he sends it away for others to mix it, because they sound shit to him no matter what he does
There's nothing wrong with Cubase 7, I ran with it for a long time and I can assure you that it does everything you need, including reamping. Think positive, dammit!
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Honestly, given the challenges you're having with technology, here's what I'd suggest as the best path. First, screw spdif for the moment. Let's just get you working analog. There are enough fundamental concepts that have to be sorted out with that alone. Once you get analog reamping working and it's all good, then Step 2 can be changing to spdif.
Remember the basic rule of debugging, keep things as simple as possible. You're grappling with too many things at once and getting overwhelmed. So, let's simplify it and start by getting reamping working, analog style.
- In VST Connections, set Mono In 1 Device Port to Input 1
- For Mono Out, set your Device Port to Output 1
- On the back of your Kemper, connect a cable to your Main Output left
- On the Focusrite, connect the other end of the cable, which must be TRS, to the front panel channel 1 input.
- On the back of your Focusrite, connect a TRS cable to Line Output 1
- On the back of the Kemper, connect the other end of the cable to Return Input
- Press the Kemper Input button
- Turn the knob for Input Source until it reads Return Input Reamp
- Press the Output button
- Turn the knob for Main Output to Master Mono (in this test we're not recording stereo)
- In Logic, if you originally created the Amp track as Stereo, create a mono track for this test, otherwise use the one you have
- For the Amp track, set the input to Mono In 1 and the output to Stereo Out
- For the DI track, set the input to not connected (since you already have a DI track) and the output to Mono Out 1
- Arm the Amp track , press Record
This is exactly how I have my setup and it works great.
Let's get you going in analog, make sure everything's working and that you understand the concepts, then you can move to spdif if you really feel the need (I don't), which shouldn't be hard to do once we have this part worked out.
That worked! Thanks. Now for the S/PDIF setup. This helped me narrow it down to maybe a routing problem on the Focusrite Software. I'll not bug you guys more about this, since now I know it works the analogue way.
I somehow managed to be able to have the AMP channel listen to the DI channel. It now inputs signal from DI, but it's clean signal. Not amped or distorted, like it should be
EDIT: It seems that the manual is wrong when it comes to output. It says to put it in Git Studio, but that's wrong, no amped sound comes through there. If I set it to Git/stacked, I get amped sound. I'll experiment a little bit more
The Kemper front input is working at all times, not matter if I chose another input source. This issue got introduced today and makes it a little more difficult to troubleshoot.. Cubase is not letting me chose DI output as the other spdif cable, and my Kemper is not letting me chose spdif as input source. I tried restarting the KPA and reinstalling OS also
EDIT: Setting KPA output to Stack instead of Git Studio had another effect. Now I can hear the amped sound, and the front input and spdif section works.. Still problems with reamping though. No way to get the DI signal to play back to the KPA.
Thanks Chris. But I have already setup input and output in cubase just like that manual there. Here's how it looks: https://imgur(dot)com/a/2PkSt0t
There you can see my whole Cubase setup, it's done correctly. I suspect that maybe reamping is not going to work on such an old DAW?
EDIT: I've now also noticed that I can still hear my guitar out of the monitors even when I set the Kemper to SPDIF input reamp.. Which I find very strange
Okay, let's start from scratch, i.e. open a new project, and we'll do it by the numbers. I'm not in the studio so some of the names are approximations, but I think it's the overall workflow that may be giving you trouble.
- Create a mono audio track and name it DI
- Set the Input to one of the mono splits from spdif
- In the Kemper, make sure the spdif output is set to the analog guitar signal
- Arm track, press Record, play guitar
- Disarm track and set the DI track output temporarily to your main Stereo out.
- Play back. If it's not just the raw guitar signal, you need to get this fixed first and it'll have to do with what your Kemper is set to output via spdif
- Once you can record a clean DI track, the next step is reamping.
- Set your DI track output to point to the Kemper mono spdif input
- On the Kemper, set that mono spdif input source to Reamp In / spdif reamp in
- Create a new audio track, mono or stereo as you prefer and name it Amp
- Set the Input of the Amp track to either one of the mono splits or the stereo of the spdif
- Now play back the DI track. You should hear the amp profile sound coming out of the Kemper. If you hear nothing, verify with headphones into the Kemper first as I don't know how you have our outputs to the speaker routed in this case. If you hear your tone through your Kemper headphones you should be good.
- Once you've verified that the DI is making it to the Kemper and you're getting the profile sound, arm the Amp track for record and press Record.
- You should see audio being recorded into the Amp track. if not, go back and check all your routing
- When recording is done, disarm the Amp track, mute the DI track, and make sure the Amp track's output is set to your main Stereo output bus.
- Press play and you should hear your reamped guitar.
See if that helps get you going.
I'm not certain on step 2. There are so many choices.. I see on some yt videos I should set it to git stack?
I actually stop on part 8. There is no way to set the DI track output to a spdif input. All I have is no bus and stereo out