Betting on hype = disaster
I posted clips. Decide for yourself:
6 clips there.
3 are the real amp.
1 is the Quad Cortex.
The other two are the Kemper - refined, and not refined.
Clip 3 is clipping
* only in dropbox, sounds fine when downloaded
I posted clips before of my JVMJS being captured by both units and the QC was miles ahead of the Kemper. Gonna try my other amps tonight.
Did you come to that conclusion after a double blind test? LOL
This is untrue, and ironic because that's exactly what you're doing with this post.
Your goal is to upset me. It's not working, but I'm not going to hesitate to call you out on it.
I'm sorry that the truth upsets you. Carry on.
I love my Kemper as well. I have been posting here for 7 years and have not ever been called a troll, nor have I ever engaged in trolling.
But now, as I give my sincere thoughts about the state of the KPA and the release of the QC, as well as the reaction of (some members) of the Kemper community to the QC...all of a sudden I'm the world's biggest troll and a fanboy of the QC?
That's an unbalanced view. Not accurate.
I have never said you guys "can't stand that there's a new kid on the block"
I have a beef with only one troll user here on these forums. Everyone else is fine.
Might be that you don’t understand what online trolling means and how you are guilty of it in almost every reply you posted in this thread.
> be on the Kemper forum
> people raise concerns regarding a different product and why they think it’s not up to par with the kemper
> calaban comes in and insults everyone here because he’s in love with said product hoping he will get a reaction or make everyone mad <<<<<< this is trolling and this is what you’ve been doing all along. Context matters.
Not ironic at all. I insulted a product, you continue to insult a group of people. Huge difference.
And yes you come off as a butthurt fanboy of an unproven, unreleased product that you don’t even own.
Come on man, just have your opinions and share them but that doesn't have to extend to you picking apart others' comments in a rude way.
I think tons of comments you post are hilarious and ridiculous and i'm literally on the floor laughing sometimes at the absurdity. But do I go and pick apart all you say? No, I don't. Do I put it out there that I have so little respect for your opinion that I'd go as far as saying "this post is funny to me"? Nah, I don't cos that's rude as hell and I was raised better than to be insulting when it wasn't warranted. You know, there are ways to get your point across without being rude and without insults. Unfortunately, i'm past the point of being nice when you start being insulting.
Did I claim to do any testing of my own or make any claims that you're being petty about?? No. I commented on the outcome the people in the video came to for their blind test. Did I need to be there to see that in a blind test all of them preferred the KPA when no bias or anything like that was involved? No. I didn't claim that I was involved and came to the same conclusion first hand. I commented about how the outcome was cool to see and how it's interesting how the preferred unit to the guys in the vid all were the same when no bias or hype or any of that is part of the equation.
It's pretty hard to deny results of something like a blind test and for some reason, the KPA does well in blind tests. That has nothing to do with me and I have no control over that, it just is what it is.
Somehow you equate the obvious outcome of the video in that particular situation, to something that's debatable or something and it comes down to the fact that the guys in the vid preferred one unit's tones over the other every time and there's not a way I can make a false claim about that lol. It is what it is. Don't be mad at me man, I'm not the one in the vid who didn't pick the QC in a blind shootout. Yeah, the results for me or you might be different and we might prefer different things. But my comment was about the video. And commenting on the outcome in the vid doesn't mean i'm "exhibiting my personal bias" or "laying it on others". Commenting on a situations outcome doesn't mean i'm pushing my opinion on people lol and idk how you got that from my post.
It's crazy how just because some people still like their Kemper, and aren't running to sell their gear to buy the QC and jump on the hype train, you assume they're Kemper fanatics and its ridiculous. If people don't support your attempts to insist the QC will be better, you treat them like an enemy that you need to be hostile towards. It's totally possible to be supportive of both things and assuming someone is totally against you just because they make a comment about the obvious outcome of a video, doesn't mean they're bashing the unit you're all about in an obsessive way lol. Just because some people are realistic and see it as another tool that's capable of the same type of tones as everything else currently, and don't think it's "next level", doesn't mean they're fanatics lol. When anyone has any mild criticisms of the QC, you instantly have to jump to discredit them and be insulting in order to defend the QC and that's being more of a fanatic if you ask me.
Keep in mind, others not preferring the QC doesn't make it bad and won't affect your experience with it. You're being defensive as if it's gonna all the sudden be terrible just because everyone isn't selling their current gear for it and because it isn't marginally better than anything that's currently available. It seems to be able to do just fine, like any other current gear. It just doesn't seem miles better than everything else like the hype and advertisement claims were, so i've been looking at the unit realistically and have been making observations based on my own interest in it. And that somehow makes me a fanatic? Come on man. Literally, all you gotta do is not be petty and not hop to pick apart what people say and you aren't gonna spark up anymore unpleasant replies like this for yourself lol.
Whenever you hop in the comments and you start to pick apart people's posts, it starts to get unpleasant and people get nasty to each other. For some reason you seem to need to step on others' opinions to make your point. There's really not a reason to be insulting when making a point unless you're just being unpleasant in an obvious way and I honestly would prefer it never got to this point but, when it does you gotta expect people to defend themselves. There's a way to communicate with people without the insults and without being immediately offensive lol.
I really didn't want to come back like this but honestly, this isn't the first time you pick apart people's posts in a uncool way and stir the pot on this forum and it really isn't necessary to be part of the conversation. We're not all trying to bash the QC just because we're making observations and comparisons to other top gear. And no one here is against you in the way you seem to think. There's really no need for the insults and backhanded comments and stuff. We can all communicate without that stuff and we all can critique things without it meaning hatred for that product lol
It's better not to feed the trolls.
If Kemper releases a new device with a modern UI and faster convertors/lower latency a la RME it’s game over.
The NDSP a has the single advantage of workflow on capture. You don’t futz with it to get it right, you don’t appear to have to go through any voodoo to work out the right combinations that will capture, no standing on mountaintops at midnight with a front left paw of a hare, it works with mic pres, power+preamp distortion, there don’t appear to be any amp makes that don’t capture, you don’t have to stay in AB mode to get an accurate sound etc. In user terms it’s just simpler, that makes it appear more accurate.
That's a two edged sword.
On on hand you have QC which automagically creates a profile without asking if you think it's accurate enough and offers no way of messing with it. As of know I've yet to hear a capture which sounds identical to the source and you can't do anything about it.
On the other hand you have the KPA which basically requires you to offer your input but if you do it right you can make it sound identical to the source as seen in the guidorist videos. Of course this is assuming you do it right other it can go very wrong.
Seeing those videos made me regret selling my Kemper ...
We're into the 14 month my friend..and while our governments have decided that absolutely everything (and most of all banks which take 0% free trillions from the central banks to play it on the stock and financial markets) is more important and worth billions and trillions of €/$ there is not a cent for artists and arts in general.Not easy not to fall into "drama mode".S9 sorry for me sounding harsh on this..
Things are not easy.It was already very difficult to be a "venue owner" since many years and all thus took heavy blows every few years but things went not to bad before the pandemic.Here were I live we had so many venues and small places to play..it was not bad..
But all these places did not pay anything during the lockdown(rent,tax etc) and from what I know most of these venues will or are already closed.
For sure if this pandemic ends things will start again.Letsbhope for the best.
Btw..5G..will it help for online stuff?Latency etc?
Can't you just answer the question or ignore it?
in terms of processing power the QC should be slightly better than the Helix and quite better than the Kemper.
The Axe FX3 is much better than all of them.
Comparing cpu speeds is not the end of all though. CK is a genius who achieved everything using a 400mhz processor while Line6 has 20 years of experience in the business.
Fractal has both the experience and the hardware.
Remains to be seen how quickly can NDSP catch up.
All these devices sound pretty good but feel is what interests me the most. I'm curious to see more reports about how the QC feels, in the coming weeks.
Could work but take a look at this:
Now that I read more about the QC I find that at the moment it's not quite in the same league as Helix, Axe, Kemper when it comes to studio or live usage.
The lack of output options, no global eqs, the form factor, no digital out, cumbersome menus.
I'm sure it will get better in time but hearing that it's better for live or studio usage ... I don't quite get that.
Like the vast majority of users I mostly use commercial profiles from people who know how to make it right and I'm pretty sure it will be the same on the QC users side. So, why the easiness to profile seems to be so important all of a sudden? It's certainly not a reason to make me swap my Kemper for the new toy absolutely not. But, you know, people like buying new toys and there is nothing wrong with it!
You need a way to rationalize spending 1700 euro on a new thing you don’t really need.
Not judging though. I’ve done that too many times.
Gas is strong.
VERY hard to say.
1, 3, 5, are the real amp
2 is Kemper refined, 4 is Kemper unrefined. There is a little more going on in the low mids, and 4 is more flabby than 2, so...
6 is QC. There is also a bit more bottom end than. in what I think is the original amp.
I'm eating my shoes if I got that right...
You cannot send audio to two sets of output at once?
Weird design choice...
They should come up with a more useable implementation for this.
It’s annoying to have to set another capture block and another output on a separate path on every preset just to have cab monitoring ...
Almost all other devices support automatic output with the cab disabled in parallel with the master output.