adding another compressor the X Slot did get me a really good tone for the Gretsch 12 string. VERY chimey, jumps out of the mix nicely.
I'm always iffy on comparisons on YouTube ... doesn't matter what he's using to record, the YouTube audio is compressed so much a lot is missing. Also, comparing heavily distorted guitar tones also masks a lot imperfections.
and I'm an idiot. I was looking on the LCD screen of my rack and the remote. I have an "x" slot on the soft buttons on the Rack. Duh.
I've also realized that the 220 page Addendum 8.7 does not include the Main Manual information (another 359 pages). I am a believer in RTFM, but navigating through almost 600 pages of material (even with a search function) is a little daunting.
thanks for the advice and leading me to the answer!
Could someone explain how you put an effect (compressor) after the amp section? I've looked back through the manual, searched here, and the "x slot" is a mystery.
I just read an interview with Roger McGuinn who said he got his classic Ricky 12 tone with dual compressors.
Edited to Add: Here's what McGuinn said of how he got his sound: "“The engineer, Ray Gerhardt, would run compressors on everything to protect his precious equipment from loud rock and roll,” McGuinn said. “He compressed the heck out of my 12-string, and it sounded so great we decided to use two tube compressors (likely Teletronix LA-2As) in series and then go directly into the board. That’s how I got my ‘jingle-jangle’ tone. It’s really squashed down, but it jumps out from the radio. With compression, I found I could hold a note for three or four seconds and sound more like a wind instrument. Later, this led me to emulate John Coltrane’s saxophone on ‘Eight Miles High’. Without compression, I couldn’t have sustained the riff’s first note.”
There's been a lot of discussion on whether putting 2 compressors in series, or one at the front and one after the amp/cab, is better. I don't think McGuinn's view answers that since he was talking about recording and compression in series "and then going straight to the board." I cannot tell if he means without a mic'd amplifier (that seems unlikely), or in series after the mic'd amp. I've got a new Gretsch electric 12 string so I'm going to try true "series" compressors in front, and then try one in front and one after the amp/cab and see what's what.
why not an Xvive and use your favorite over the ear cans (most now have 3.5mm connectors and adapters for 1/4")? Our drummer plugs his OTE cans into his receiver of our NADY PEM-04 and it's perfectly fine.
If you mean switching between electric and acoustic guitar within the same song, then the only thing I've ever done that always works and works well is to have an electric guitar with piezo bridge (like a Godin LGX or similar), then have a setting within a performance that is acoustic (I like the Selah profiles) and just switch between it and the electric setting. I've never found using just an electric and trying various "acoustic simulation"patches or pedals very satisfying tone-wise and would rather just play the acoustic part on electric ... most folks don't really know the difference. Even Page just used electric for live performance of certain Zep acoustic parts.
In terms of physically switching between two guitars (one electric, one acoustic), my experience is that it's just as fast/convenient to unplug the electric and plug in the acoustic as it is having both guitars plugged into a switcher (and fewer connections to go bad). You can mute using the Kemper tuner (from the remote) while you do that.
Before I had the Kemper, I used a Godin LGX and when I switched to the piezo I also switched to an "acoustic" path on my pedalboard -- that used a LR Baggs Paracoustic DI and a Lexicon to sometimes add a little flanging.
it's just a different flavor of bands having the "wall of Marshalls" behind them, with all or most of the cabs empty, and Champ or other small amp off stage providing their tone. Live performance is a show, and the backline and overall stage look is part of that show. If you went to see a rock band and the stage was empty except for the drums and the pedalboards (everyone using IEMs), a lot of folks would wonder what was going on (and you'd hear rumors of "backing tracks").
I think for most touring bands the keys are what sounds great, what's reliable, and what's easily serviceable or replaceable if something goes down. Hard to argue that carry 2 or even 3 Kempers is pretty easy and guarantees the same sound.
based on this ... what's the lifespan of that 2032? I'm wondering if a little preventative maintenance is in order (i'm going to be changing rack cases for the Kemper Rack soon, so while its "unracked" I'm thinking I might go ahead and change this battery now. I bought my Rack used in early 2020 ... I don't know exactly what year the Rack was made so the battery is at least probably 3 years old.
well -- just plugged in the new TRS cable and that was it. The older one looks perfect, so I'm going to check to see where it went south just so I can spot if there's some issue with how it's routed on the pedalboard.
no -- set to wah. here are the settings:
I'm running the current version of Profiler OS and Rig Manager. I'm using two Mission Expression pedals, one for dedicated wah and one for volume.
I have the wah connected to the Remote at pedals 5 & 6, using TRS cable for 5 and TS for 6 as the switch. I have a wah locked as Stomp A across all rigs.
This has worked great for a long time. Within the last week or two , however, the wah has lost its "sweep" function. It clicks on and off, and sounds like a "fixed wah" but it will not "sweep" when the expression pedal is moved heel to toe and back. The only change I can be sure of is upgrading the Profiler OS, but I'm not saying for sure that's it. I added some new rigs to a new performance for my 12 string, and did not "knowingly" do anything to the wah or pedal settings (but of course, can't rule out having done something stupid by accident).
I've tried both of my Mission Expression pedals with the same result - so that tells me the culprit is something in the Kemper. Both Mission pedals function properly when set as volume pedals, so the "sweep" is working. I've ordered a new TRS cable just to rule that out. I've also review the manual regarding wah set up procedures, and watched several YouTube videos regarding same. Nothing is jumping out at me as an obvious point of error -- which means I'm clearly missing something.
Anyone have ideas? Also, I had thought backing up the Rig Manager backed up the Profiler as well, but apparently not (I was going to load a prior Profiler backup to see if that fixed the issue). I'm not sure how one backs up the Profiler and then restores a backup ... figured Rig Manager did that but it doesn't seem so.
Thanks for any thoughts,
With the Kemper's extraordinary capbilities, it's easy to drift into FOMO - fear of missing out. As in, "there's probably an EVEN BETTER rig among the thousands and thousands out there." Ditto all the effects.
I use mine for "live" work only, no recording. That means practice, band rehearsal, and gigs. I started out by first thinking of what small number of amps I would go get if money were no object, based on the stuff I play. That ended up being a couple Marshalls (plexi, 800, etc.), a fender deluxe reverb, a vox, and some Dr. Z's (since I own several of those). Then I looked at a limited number of profiler company's offerings based on reviews I've read. Bought a few based on reviews and online samples (ended up with Michael Britt and Rick Beato being my two faves).
Then I created performances with those amps - focusing on a very good clean tone, an "edge of breakup" tone, a very crunchy tone, and then a couple lead tones. I did this for my single coil guitars and separate ones for humbuckers.
Then I added effects as indicated above -- only added what I needed, not any "gee whiz" stuff. So locked in a wah for all, some compression, reverb, delay, chorus for the clean tones, some boost and delay, and the odd phaser, for the lead tones. With that, I've ended up with 4 or 5 performances that I can easily navigate depending on the guitar and what I'm playing, and it covers 99% of everything I need to do. Then I can focus on practice.
From time to time, I sit down and just experiment, but that's when I'm specifically in the mood to see what the Kemper can do. I don't let that interfere with practice. There I play with new rigs, new effects, etc. Mainly to to learn more about how the Kemper works and what i can do.
And I backup like crazy via Rig Manager so I don't lose anything or can restore if I accidentally overwrite something (which has happened too many times).
Any of these devices can be 1,000 mile deep rabbit holes. You have to approach them with a clear idea of what you want, and push back against that FOMO feeling. Oh, and I'm 100% in the camp the believes most of your tone is in your fingers -- there's no rig on earth that will make me sound like EVH no matter how good I am. I will always sound like me. So my expectations of profiles is somewhat tempered - I look for them to sound like the amp, not the artist, because I'm not going to sound the artist no matter what.
All my $0.02
Desire is a root cause of all suffering in this life. Good musicians know, that they only need to have skills to play which they develop by constant work, and they need pure joy out of playing. Life worth living is more about feeling than having.
and yet Keef has over 1,000 guitars. 😁
I’m using a Fryette PS-2 with an unpowered Rack and it sounds great to my ears. I run to a celestion f12-x200 in a thiele cab for monitor and also direct to FOH. The PS-2 uses 6L6s, but I’m never at a monitor volume to push those hard at all. I don’t notice them coloring the Kemper’s sound at the level I’m running, but of course everyone’s ears are different. I already had the Fryette from using it with my tube amps - if I hadn’t I would have likely found a good solid state amp that was lighter (or maybe would have bought a powered Rack).
I have a slightly different view. The kit guitar and the 2 by 4 didn’t sound significantly different for me to say ‘maple this, rosewood that’.
They influence, of course…..but if your pickups are crap (or just the wrong ones), none of the other stuff is going to ‘fix’ that. Certainly not for the effort required vs changing pickups.
At the end of the day, without a double-blind test it's purely a personal matter as to what features of a guitar affect tone and are "best" for a given purpose. Likely the reason you rarely see double-blind tests. I think Kemper generated the most blind tests when it launched -- I've never seen so many videos trying to figure out "is it Kemper, or is it a tube amp"
This is what the Rig Manager 3.2.57 notes say:
KEMPER Rig Manager™ allows you to preview and manage your collection of PROFILER™ Rigs, Performances, and presets.
This version of Rig Manager should be used in combination with PROFILER OS 8.6 or higher.
The current OS 8.6.6 is a 8.6 by the way.
Rig Manager 3.2.57 and OS 8.6.6 are the current compatible release revisions. Many thousand users have performed this update and are using this combination successfully. There is no generic issue for RM 3.2.57 updating from OS 8.5.6 to 8.6.6.
Thanks for that update. I believe what happened for me was that when I launched Rig Manager, it said it needed to update to 3.2.57, so I did. I did not realize the Profiler OS needed to be updated to 8.6 FIRST -- BEFORE doing the RM update. So I ended up with RM at 3.2.57 but Profiler OS only at 8.5.6, not the required 8.6. RM apparently doesn't check Profiler OS when RM updates itself.
Certainly reviewing the release notes is important, however when you get an update notice it's a bit human nature to tell it to go ahead. It would be a good feature if RM did a check of the Profiler version installed before it updates so RM doesn't update itself to a version not compatible with what's on the Profiler.
thanks, but it seem Rig Manager would not update my Profiler OS. It said it could not install and that I needed OS 8.6 to update. I have 8.5.6 on my Profiler, and Rig Manager 3.2.57.
Rig manager has worked to upgrade itself and my Profiler in the past. Not sure why this one was problematic.