I also use two 2x12 cabinets with V30s and G12T75s. I stopped purchasing profiles because there are too many great free ones on the exchange and none of the ones I purchased thrilled me, including the ones from well known profilers. Profiles do start to sound the same but I think that's because we like what we like, and tend to EQ the profiles the same. I tried the Kone speaker and it wasn't for me, send it back the next day. I also tried the F12-X200 speaker and it sounder better to my ears then the Kone, I and kept that one in a 1x12 cab. I also have a couple Headrush 1x8 power speakers which opens up a different world because now the profiled cabinets come into play, and you can use the cab section from other profiles. I still prefer the powered Kemper head through a real cabinet, but there are many options sure sure and all of them will give you a different prospective on the same exact profile.
Posts by dacop1313
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A lot of demos from commercial profilers are deceptive in the way that EQ/compression/reverb is added after recording. Many are even double/quad tracked. Of course if a profiler doesn't do this and everyone else is, his profiles will sound weaker in comparison, therefore a lot are doing it in spite of what they claim. Thankfully, there is Rig Exchange.
I agree. Lets face it, its all about $ales, and these profilers will do anything to make their profiles sound great in their demos. Unfortunately there is no return policy on profiles. I have purchased a few in the past that I would like to send back. Rig Exchange is the way to go, there are MANY great ones out there.
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This is why I have yet to purchase a commercial profile. To get the same tone you hear in a demo you would;
(a) have to have the same exact global settings in your Kemper as the profiler. (Something I have not seen profilers readily sharing).
(b) have the same exact guitar and pickups used.
(c) maybe even have the same interface and DAW the profiler used.
Spot on...not to mention the same power source and speakers, too many factors come into play. This goes for tube amps also, they never sound the same as in youtube demos either.
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I find that no commercial profiles ever sound the same as the demos. I am not sure why that is, so I stopped buying them and found many great free ones in the Rig Exchange. I recently profiled and posted (Rig Exchange) a Marshall 410 head. Take a look at those if you like the Marshall tone.
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For those of you using a power head or a power amp into a real guitar cabinet, which type of profiles do you prefer...Studio or DI?
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Jimmy Page
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Its all FAKE. We are modeling here, you cant take Tube Amp theories/practices and apply them to solid state.
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Power amp doesn't care about an enclosure, but speaker moves in this enclosure and why are guitar cabs not built with plastic? I think speaker<->enclosure cooperation plays major role in perceived amplified guitar sound.
Yamaha DXR10 may be good, for vocals, keyboards, acoustic guitar (piezo) but in my opinion the complexity of amplified guitar sound is somehow meant to be played by solid wood/birch cabinet. Just my opinion. Soon I will compare DXR10 to FRFR with birch enclosure and will get back with results.
I think that's all true with tube amps...not solid state.
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Properly designed (of which the Yamaha is), no one will hear the plastic vs wood. For guitar-specific speakers? Perhaps a different story. But everything in an FRFR (should) be designed to deliver the least coloration. The power amp won't care about its enclosure, but the speaker will be highly affected.
I'm good with that, no doubt that a power amp will add allot more color to the profile then plastic vs wood...when it comes to solid state that is. If I am using a Marshall tube amp, thats a different story.
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Yamaha DXR10 also was the one to sound GREAT with the Kemper, but it was just louder that studio monitors and had a little punch, but was missing amp-in-the-room feeling big time.
I don't believe that a plastic box with a speaker can give GREAT results with guitar. Off course depending on the expectations.
Off course Headrush 112/110/108 will sound better than any studio monitors, because of size (louder, more "body"). Better than headphones, because on room acoustics, but it will not sound amazing as algorithm1010 - for that I'm sure one need a speaker in wood/birch enclosure of proper size.
I dont think anyone would be able to tell the difference between plastic or wood. Especially when dealing with a solid state head to begin with. Plus the last thing you want with any profile is a cabinet adding color.
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Get the Headrush 112 or the 108 and save $100, they are both loud enough to gig with as I have done in the past, or just bedroom jam. And more importantly the Headrush powered speakers sound GREAT with the Kemper, its a perfect match imo.
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I dual boot from 7 to 10 thanks to Rig Manager not running on 7.
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The starting Profile has no influence on the outcome - it is only recommended to select one so you can
a) listen to the Profile and compare it to your setup before Profiling (and maybe adjust the mics a little etc) - so you have a frame of referenceand
b) to save time when tagging
Thanks, was just wondering if it had any influence on the profile.
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Do you guys pay special attention to the initial profile you are dialed into when ready to start capturing a new profile from an amp? I understand if you are capturing a distorted or clean tone, its best to start with the same, but is there one profile that you will always start with being clean or dirty, and does it make a difference?
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I was just curious, I am using FRFR now but plan on getting the Kab, which do you prefer? Is it worth it for me to get a Kab too?
To be honest, I purchased the Kone speaker and shipped it back the next day, I didnt like it at all. I went back to the FRFR (Headrush) and real cab (V30s) option.
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By settings, do you mean separate input and output settings or different rigs?
Different Rigs. I take the same profile and dial it up for FRFR, save it, and then do the same for Real Cab. There is no way a profile will sound the same from a FRFR to a Real Cab.
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Firstly, you need power, that's obvious. Also, if you were previously running profiles though an FRFR speaker and then decided to run that same profile with the same settings through a real cabinet, be prepared to tweak again. I personally have two settings for each profile, one for FRFR and another when I send that same profile through a real cabinet.
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In my opinion there is nothing more "unrealistic" in ALL amp modelers then the overdrive stomp section.
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I already have the headrush 108 that I use for gigs but I think lower volumes at home it sounds far from ideal lol. Studio monitors at home would def be better than the headrush 108 in my opinion
I don't know...I don't have an issue with the HR 108 at home at lower volume. I do turn off the contour switch in the back of the speaker when playing at lower volumes.
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I have the JBL 305s and they are great. Just want to throw this out there, take a look a the Headrush 108 powered speaker. They are small enough for studio and also loud enough to gig with, and very portable. They only cost $219 and sound great with the Kemper profiles. I used a pair of them in stereo last weekend at a gig and I had no issues with tone or volume. I could have gotten away with one as they are very loud. Most importantly they sound great.
