I thought this was bizarre too, seriously. This also worked once before, with 7.0.5.
To make things even stranger, I'm running 96KHz both here, and at the friends house - same result. I hope this becomes a feature, and not a serendipitous bug.
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It's not about whether or not they're both connected, mate. I'm talking about not being able to monitor, without clicks and pops, the KPA's S/PDIF out whilst it's slaved (via S/PDIF) to your interface. That slaving will sync the KPA's S/PDIF input only. The only way to have both S/PDIF in and out synced properly is to set the KPA as master and your AI as slave.
As I said to Kempermaniac:
If it's the S/PDIF out from the KPA to the AI, the AI will have to be set as the slave (external clock) and the Kemper to master (internal clock). In this case, you'll be able to listen to both the KPA's S/PDIF in and out without issues.
I've got it, believe me.
Focusrite 18i8 set to Internal clock sync, KPA plugged to S/PDIF IN and OUT - no clicks, no pops - happy, thanks. Not reamping.
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Turns out I do have both the In and Out S/PDIF cables connected to my AI (18i8) here. I'm not using the DAW out/KPA in channel, just have the cables plugged in to both channels.
At the friends house (6i6), I was connected to KPA Out only.
I'm not using the re-amp feature at all, but yes, with both S/PDIF cables connected, Internal sync works fine for me, at the moment.
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Thanks MM! I wasn't trying to belabor the point, that I have some special KPA or interface, just that the Internal interface clock sync seems to be working with 7.1.2 (release works for me too).
I do only have the output S/PDIF cable connected to my KPA .
And yes, this wouldn't be the first time that the Internal sync worked, and was then broken later in updates. I'm enjoying it for the moment.
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Display Morethis text below is what i found some month ago on the Forum which makes it clear
what you can do with spdif, think it was posted by Kemper support
" the head/rack/stage all automatically lock to the supplied sample-frequency applied to it's IN. So if you only want to use S/PDIF in 1 direction only, the head/rack will 'slave' correctly, but this is not what is commonly known as slave mode.
unfortunately the head/rack cannot slave it's OUT-clock to it's IN-clock due to a hardware issue in the used chip : so it's not possible to do a S/PDIF 'loop' : PC -> KPA -> PC (which would be needed for digital re-amping, and which is commonly called 'slave mode') "
This is what I'm experiencing, and am able to use Internal sync with S/PDIF.
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Or i'm running external clock as master, which the Kemper can't do
I don't understand what you mean there.
I am using Internal source for clock sync, tested both 6i6 and 18i8 now; with, 96KHz, 128 samples, works fine.
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I tried at 96khz and i get the same clicks than at 44.1 on my Focusrite 6i6
If you're getting clicks at 44.1Khz also, you have a sample rate problem, or you are running your buffer too low for what your DAW hardware is capable of.
I updated to 7.1.2 release, and am still able to run Internal clock sync for S/PDIF, cleanly. I would've thought people would be happy about this.
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Except I didn't have any clicks, at 96Khz, 128 samples. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot.
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The head and rack will always be limited to using their internal clocks only; they won't be able to slave to your AI I'm afraid, JSB.
This was confirmed for me by CK himself when I asked in an old thread of mine:
I remember being told that Head and Rack would never be S/PDIF Slave, but I really only wanted not to have to change the Sync Clock source on my AI - which I'm no longer doing. I no longer have to set my AI at External or S/PDIF. But will it last?
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I updated to 7.1.2beta without any problems.
I took my Powerhead to a friend's this weekend, he has a Focusrite 6i6 (1st gen) at his place. I did not have to change the Sync to S/PDIF on the AI, I left it set to Internal, for hours without one problem.
I just tried it here too, same thing, I'm no longer forced to set my AI to use External or S/PDIF for sync clock.
Is this something that we'll be able to count on in the future, that even for the Head and Rack, we won't be forced to set the Sync to S/PDIF or External?
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QuotePROFILER Operating System 7.1.1.15153/15155
User Interface
fixed: lost snapshots during upgrade
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Quality takes time, I can wait for the finished product.
I'd rather wait for perfection, than to come here and see the entitled, self-righteous whiners, demanding a fix for something in every other thread, because the editor was rushed out.
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Ever since I upgraded to the new beta OS, my Kemper seems sluggish and it crashes when using the Rig Manager which is upgraded to the new one. It feels like the Kemper's CPU is reaching it's limits. I hope they can fix this when the new OS is released.
Are you using PC or Mac? Does unplugging and re-plugging the KPA in to your PC/Mac do anything? Rebooting change anything?
Is it switching to different profiles, that feels slow? What's the slowest feature that you're seeing?
For the record: I'm not experiencing any problems or slowness with 7.1.0beta and RM 2.3.13.
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PROFILER Operating System 7.0.9.15094/15095
Audio
changed: improved timing of Tremolo
User Interface
fixed: Browser Mode asserting with MIDI program change > 127
fixed: inconsistent background color when selecting effect category with TYPE pressed (Stage)
fixed: MorphPedal >Wah with Bypass@Stop not working properly
fixed: effect category and effect type assignment of TYPE knob not consistent across all effect modules
fixed: Rig Tempo not always enabled/disabled correctly, if switching Slots fast in Performance Mode
fixed: resets during startup not always functional (Stage)
fixed: rate of expression pedal scanning too low (Stage)
fixed: copy/paste of Stack Section not functional (Stack)
fixed: migration of older Stomps and Effects Section presets during upgrade
added: soft knobs 1, 2, 3 and 4 functional on Effects Selection Page
changed: enhanced Ground Lift page (Stage)
changed: second hit of EDIT button opens Effect Selection Page (Stage)
changed: scanning of foot buttons improved further (Stage)
I was prompted to update to 7.0.9 from 7.0.8, as soon as I selected yes and the upgrade was in progress, I was then prompted to install RM 2.3.13. I waited until 7.0.9 finished, and then installed RM 2.3.13, from 2.3.12. No problems.
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PROFILER Operating System 7.0.8.15017/15018
fixed: missing Rigs when previewing Performances via Rig Manager
fixed: reliability of Rig Manager notifications
fixed: clear morph function for EQ merged into amp module at Stage
fixed: potential stack overflow after large number of Rig changes via MIDI
fixed: occasional issues to export Rigs
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I too am getting pops and clicks from 7.0.6, when my AI is set to use its internal clock.
However, when the KPA is the Master with 7.0.6, I have really clean S/PDIF output at 96Khz, perhaps better than ever.
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CelticGibson , if it records properly via S/PDIF, and sounds good in the process, that's all that matters right?
We can still set S/PDIF to also produce a DI track too, that we can use to re-amp with 1/4" or XLR. It would be nice to re-amp with S/PDIF too, but I'm happy with this.
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Before 7.0.5, my Focusrite would never Sync, or make a sound, unless the clock was set to: S/PDIF (external clock), and the sample rates also had to match.
With 7.0.5, at 96KHz, and the Focusrite set to Internal clock, it works well for me. I understand now that only the Stage model can re-amp in this way.
