Ritter(Camplifier) unfortunately warns against running at 4 ohms in spite of being solid state. The original versions, the new ones are 4 ohm friendly.
Posts by madmarcus1960
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My package came with a one page manual showing the 4x12 and 2x12 wiring setup. On the diagram , they show how you can run 4x12 with 4ohms. But i'd like to run it with 16 Ohms using all speakers in series of course i have the right impedance set from my power amp. What it intentional from the manual not to mention this kind of setup (4x12 16Ohms)? Will it affect the Kone speakers on the long run ?
Don't believe it would, impedance match is for the amp. Wiring 4 12" in series to get 16 ohms is kosher. I just hope you're using a amp that will not add color to the overall sound. Most solid state amps are 4-16 ohm compatible. Most being the key word.
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So this speaker if the imprints are not used will play the "CAB" IR as if it were a FRFR speaker. I read how you can play music through it, but, I guess I didn't put 2+2 together on this assumed best of both worlds.
That would be great if you have a profile where the IR just kills it, and can just play through the Kone as I did with the F12-X200s.
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Initial impression is one of complete satisfaction! I got 2 Kones, put them in a 2x12 Marshall Lead 100 Mosfet straight cab. It replace 2 F12-X200 which sounded great. These may actually be the "amp in the room" experience that everyone misses using FRFR. The Imprint collection does have a lot of variety. While my initial gripe about the Kones impedance still stands, (I'll either have to send my Camplifier to Germany to be modded to drive a 4 ohm load or sell it to someone with the F12-X200's) I had an old Rocktron Velocity 150 in the basement. That thing will out live me! It drives 75W/ch into 4 ohms. I keep the Reactance knob full CCW for no effect and this thing sounds BIG!
Even with all my bitch'n, well done Kris, well done!!
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MKB, I folded and have 2 Kones coming in on Saturday. Between X200 and the Kone, winner stays, loser walks.
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I find It plays nicely with the Kone Jen C12N Ceramic
I'll give that one a try.
Edit:Still harsh IMHO, the IRs still sound better through the X200 on my setup
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MKB, the F12-X200 is very harsh, tried it. I own a couple of 12LTAs, what was your experience?
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Why disappointed?
The Kone engine does not work with another speaker, as announced.
For all that want to use an existing active Cabinet for running the Kone: check with the manufacturer for 4 Ohm again, since most solid state amps can handle 4 Ohm.
First gen Camplifiers aren't, only 8 ohms. Kris, I really don't want to have to use 4 speakers to drive my KPA in 8 ohm stereo. As I said the Celestion F12-X200 sounds great with IRs, so I guess it's my choice not to use all the new features. Just like my choice to use real drive pedals out front(still a weakness). Still great gear, no worries.
Stay healthy and sane!!
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The PEDD amp will run a 4 ohm load as it extension cabinet compatible. Actually they make a passive cab to add to a PEDD. It's 100W into 8 ohms and when you add the extension it becomes 200W. Kind of deceiving in their marketing but I wasn't using it live, just at home.
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I wonder if I can replace the speaker in a Tech 21 PEDD w/the K.K.? The amp is 100W into 8 ohms, but if you run a PEDD extension speaker it becomes 4 ohm load and 200W.
Things that make you go Huhmmmmm.
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You can start my GoFundMe page for 4 Kemper Kones
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Unfortunately, I'm addicted to running in stereo.
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Using the baked in IRs sound fine with the F12-X200s. It does sound awful with Imprints. Somewhat disappointed, but my older Camplifier360 won't work with the Kone's impedance anyway.
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I emailed Ritter and the owner, who posts here, said that they could modify them to work at that impedance. It would require sending the unit to them. If you're located in the EU it may be less of an inconvenience as opposed to living in the US.
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Cool, found what you're explaining. Good job KPA, didn't know we could do this.
Thanks paults
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Cabinets only? not profiles!
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Much like the editing the list of profiles on the KPA, I'd like to have an easy way to remove user added cabinets.
If this is already doable, but I've missed it, please advise.
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I don't play out anymore, so I won't need to worry about FOH.
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recommendations on whether to run DI profiles into a real cab or use IRs into a FRFR cab. I've used Friedman ASM12s in the past(on my AXE3 rig now), but miss the amp-in-the-room experience with all my modelling toys.