I tried the freeby version of Tonex. Of the 20 amps, only found 1 amp I think I'd use, then dialled in a better equivalent on my Kemper in about 1 minute.
QC was hailed as a game changer, look what happened there.
Tonex is the new "game changer". It beats pedals like the iridium I would think, but it's limitations mean it's nowhere near a game changer for pro use imo.
6 months time a new "game changer" will be out
Kemper will keep doing it's thing.
We drive on the left as most of the pubs are built that side.
Thanks donlp1. I did like the Tonex here, but they are both different, both usable. You might have saved me some money here 
Display MoreI will qualify to say I am a hobbyist and not pro musician.
I've tried the Tonex software quite a bit in the last few days. To be honest I am less than impressed. The UI to me is frustrating and fiddly. 90% of the sounds on the free tone net are to me harsh and not fun to play, perhaps a greater percentage of the factory presets seem to me to be the same.
My favourite sounds are driven Plexi Marshall ala ACDC and clean but not sparkly Fender sounds for clean rhythm with a bit of spring reverb.
I do think Kemper is a champion at both these sorts of sounds.
Tonight I tried using the Kemper with some favourite Marshall sounds sending out to my DAW whilst I also got the Kemper to output a DI signal at the same time. Of course my Kemper stage sounded great with the addition of a bit of the inbuilt natural reverb provided by Kemper,
I then applied Tonex software to the DI track which of course was exactly as played by the Kemper track as they had been simultaneously recorded and tried some of the best Tonex Marshall captures I had collected over the last few days.
Nope could not get the software to sound as good as the processed Kemper track. To me in comparison Tonex lacked body, harmonic complexity and sounded harsher and for want of a better word less amplike and saggy. The Kemper track was a bit more low passed but I think that's realistic given the frequency response of a guitar cab. The Tonex software seems to me to tend to have harsher high frequency content, less bass and sound and feel stiffer to play.
I would rate the particular experiment I did 2/10 to Tonex and 9/10 to Kemper re sound quality in my opinion and how it sounded to me.
I paid for the software Tonex SE, but I don't think in retrospect it was a terribly useful purchase, sure there are some decent sounding clean and very gain captures (IMHO people might like them for the fizziness ). I don't think the Tonex stomps are all that much better than the existing modelled AT5 stomps eg the stellar Mudhoney stomp in Amplitube 5. Some of the free Tonex Klon stomps with high downloads are not not too bad though.
I found it was very difficult to do a Tonex capture of my Kemper, routing my Steinberg UR 44 was a nightmare, I did not succeed as I wanted to try some Tonex captures of one or two of my Kemper profiles. Just trying to figure out the routing of my UR44 and Kemper ins and outs was testing to say the least.
I was going to buy a Radial reamp box to capture some of my few amps in Tonex, but now I don't think I'll bother, I'll let others tear their hair out and the few good captures I can find I will gratefully import into my Tonex software and use when I am too lazy to break out my Kemper.
I took great pleasure in deleting all the IK presets in my TONex software that I don't own captures for, as I cannot stand the obnoxious hissing reminder IK kindly attached to all those presets. That was a relief and made browsing the presets section of the Tonex software not jarring as it was to me before.
There is a reason I have seen Kempers in many studios on Youtube, I think its place is secure. It is claimed by some on the internet that Kemper is not as accurate as QC and Tonex, however I think in terms of accuracy of the Kemper if that is even a problem then that is completely outweighed by the great tone and feel of the Kemper unit, and noting also the great build quality of the Kemper and the great support and updates and user community.
Thanks for the well thought out post. As with the QC, will be interesting to see how it pans out once the hype train slows.
YouTube paid for mafia are salivating, this is better 😂
yep, they're gonna get a bit off mileage out of this. The QC kinda fizzled out.
A lot of people were asking for similar, it is kinda basic as a box, but good to throw in a bag. I'd see it more for quick rehearsals than anything else.
One other thought - is there another Kemper owner in your location you could perhaps get in touch with on social media? Might be a quick way to see if it is your unit at fault, if so find a workaround.
Best of luck either way
Thanks bud, I'm still crying over having to sell my purple baby years ago. Can't wait to gives these a spin.
Well, there is one more solution that could be taken from the world of chess ...
bit old fashioned here - but as Hoki Toki mentioned above our drummer would tap us in with the sticks.
ps I at giving the drummer a cheap metronome - careful they don't respond with a cheap tuner 
Thanks! Can't wait to check these out
iZotope do Stutter Edit - will make that a breeze.
But the compressed sound annoys the living s%$t out of me. So now I am writing a VST to compensate for the loss of dynamics. I need to uncompress the Kemper input compression. There are dynamic EQs out there but I have not tried them yet. I like to roll my own whenever possible.
Compression is definitely something that some people are more sensitive to than others. Over the last 20 -30 years all music has been compressed to hell so maybe some are more tolerant of it. Interested in whether a dynamic eq would work?
Or maybe an expander - have a hardware one,, but I'm sure there must be plugin version?
on a serious note, still wading my way through the brilliant effects -
dress up as a traffic warden and hide in the wardrobe... oops wrong forum..
^^^In UK. Have a fcb 1010 with UNO chip that I bought for gigging but then circumstances changed and haven't used it lot. Will sell for what I bought it for. Not intending to spam here, delete if needed but just an option for the OP
I suppose anything is only worth what it will sell for, but in years to come will Kurt's pedal be worth more than Jimmy's, or was his guitar worth more than Dave's? Interesting how this all comes about.
I know a guy who won a Gibson played and signed by Gary Moore. He's a non guitarist. I need to ply him with beer I think 
Second, I would have to sell the Kemper I have to justify buying a newer model,
Fractal's been through more models than Rod Stewart
agree, although for some the harder they worked the luckier they got
