Anyone done a clean jazz guitar rig with his delay settings:
delay:
left side 13 ms
right side 26 ms
both sweeping with a sine wave at a low depth and rate
pat metheny rig?
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both sweeping with a sine wave at a low depth and rate
What is sweeping? A chorus, a flanger?
Can you give us a song example?
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A Roland JC120 profile, EQed to sound like that, with a subtle amount of Hyper Chorus added (with the Hyper Chorus set to two delay voices) would be worth trying to get that sound, if you use a similar guitar.
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Hi paults!...could you elaborate on the "Hyper Chorus set to two delay voices" ? How exactly does one do that? Thanks!
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Actually I think the air chorus is more suited to get a Metheny chorus.
IIRC Metheny uses one shifted and one non shifted signal that 'mix in the air' and thus make up for this special chorus sound.
This is the same approach to chorus as Roland's with the JC 120 and Christoph Kemper has nailed it IMO with the implementation of air chorus. -
Actually I think the air chorus is more suited to get a Metheny chorus.
IIRC Metheny uses one shifted and one non shifted signal that 'mix in the air' and thus make up for this special chorus sound.
This is the same approach to chorus as Roland's with the JC 120 and Christoph Kemper has nailed it IMO with the implementation of air chorus.tried it and don't like it much. Didn't sound much like metheny either.
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I considered suggesting the Air Chorus, too. It may be a matter of listening to them both (I won't have a chance to play with my Kemper until tomorrow)
He has two modulated very short delays in stereo, with a dry signal in the middle. Since the hyper chorus has a mix control, it allows mixing the left and right chorus voices in with the center dry signal.
Hyper Chorus:
The "Amount" control - "You can smoothly fade the numbers of delay lines from one to three on each stereo side. So yes, even 1.5 choruses are possible: this simply means one chorus is at full volume, the other is at half."
Both of the effects also have a crossover control that can be adjusted to modulate only the higher frequencies. That can remove too much "swirlyness" in the low end. -
Is your rig in stereo? Air chorus doesn't work in mono.
The chorus mix would have to be set very low to sound anything like that video.
I originally was going to suggest trying Micro Pitch, but it does not modulate the detune amount. A small amount of it could work well, too.
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Is your rig in stereo? Air chorus doesn't work in mono.
The chorus mix would have to be set very low to sound anything like that video.
I originally was going to suggest trying Micro Pitch, but it does not modulate the detune amount. A small amount of it could work well, too.
ok, i'm now thinking what I'm experiencing is a bug. The air chorus doesn't seem to work properly in performance mode. When I store the performance to the rig pool, the exact same rig works fine and the air chorus works as expected.
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Yes - two cabinets with a stereo output is what I was asking about.
Air chorus modulates just one side of the stereo pair. Hyper chorus modulates both sides, with a mix control, so the effect can be added to a dry center signal. The Metheny sound is subtle - neither effect's presets would sound right, so parameter tweaking would be needed.
Are you using different FX settings in Browse and Performance modes? They are independent of each other.
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Yes - two cabinets with a stereo output is what I was asking about.
Air chorus modulates just one side of the stereo pair. Hyper chorus modulates both sides, with a mix control, so the effect can be added to a dry center signal. The Metheny sound is subtle - neither effect's presets would sound right, so parameter tweaking would be needed.
Are you using different FX settings in Browse and Performance modes? They are independent of each other.
No, as I said, I just stored the performance mode to the rig pool and toggle back and forth between them and in rig mode the air chorus works fine, in performance mode, not. No changes to anything other than one is a rig, one is a performance.
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Understood - I read your other post. With no edits, they should sound the same. Support will likely ask for a backup file, so they can investigate
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Understood - I read your other post. With no edits, they should sound the same. Support will likely ask for a backup file, so they can investigate
do they monitor the forums or should I submit a ticket?
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They monitor the forums, but I suggest submitting a ticket. If it is a bug, it may be something simple that can go into an interim beta version, and be in place for 3.0.
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They monitor the forums, but I suggest submitting a ticket. If it is a bug, it may be something simple that can go into an interim beta version, and be in place for 3.0.
+1 for a support ticket.
I will try to replicate if air chorus isn't working properly in PM later.
Also I agree in dialing down the intensity quite a bit otherwise you'll get a 'can't get rid of my JC120’ all thread time.
