Posts by Gtrjunior

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from Job Posthuma

    Id expect the combination of an unchecked “monitor cab off”, and a checked “Kone” to give results you describe. That triggers the kpa to setting that gets Kone speaker into fullrange mode....but you don’t have one connected.

    A regular cab hooked to your monitoring output...requires “monitor cab off” checked, Kone unchecked.
    In many cases a poweramp adds high that need compensation from the global EQ...don’t be afraid to dial it ;)

    yup…that’s my next step tonight when I get home from work. I’ll shut down the Kone functionality and see what that gives me. What you’re saying about it basically being in Full Range mode makes perfect sense.

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from Dynochrome

    From my experience, having monitor cab on and going into a speaker makes it dull, not shrill. Odd.

    I’m having a hard time describing it actually. It’s def not dull and is kind of like when you’re plugged into your DAW with the cab sim off. But even that description is over-describing it. But you know how it feels/sounds when plugged in like that….buzzy and brittle? sort of like that. It lacks any of the smoothness and character it is supposed to have.

    sorry, it’s tough to describe.

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from Burkhard

    In default state MONITOR OUTPUT and MAIN OUTPUT feed the same signal - there should be no sound difference. You can press Init Globals in System Settings to reset global settings to their default state.


    With your guitar cabinet, you should feed your external power amp from the MONITOR OUTPUT and activate Monitor Cab Off.


    If you still have sound issues with these settings (default state plus Monitor Cab Off activated) and across all Rigs, you might want to test another amp/cabinet combination just as a reference. Your power amp is a tube amp, which is coloring the tone. However, the tube power amp sound coloring is already included in the amp simulation. The Eminence EM12 is advertised as "A high power 12 inch guitar speaker featuring ultra-clean tone with big, round, punchy lows and warm, smooth mids and highs. A more neutral tone so you can hear more of your amp and guitar.". Perhaps this is the origin of your "digital and shrill" tone.

    I’ll recheck the settings you mentioned.
    I will say that through the mains out, and now with the mon cab turned off, it isn’t all that shrill anymore. So I think the issue was the mon cab being on.
    I am still hearing quite a bit of tonal difference between the two outputs.
    Im still learning how to navigate the unit. Lol

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from cmbrowns

    Do you have the Kemper Kone turned on? Since you're not using a Kemper Kone, that could be changing the sound from the monitor output in unexpected ways. That option is only intended to make the Kemper Kone cabinet sound like the specified imprint.


    Also keep in mind that the FOH is getting it's cab that would be a mic'd cabinet sound. And it depends on what type of cabinet is set up in the rig. It could (and probably should) sound very different from the real cabinet you are monitoring with.

    you know….I think you’re right. I believe I remember the Kone section being on. Since it was on by default, I wasn’t sure if it was supposed to be on or not. So I left it as-is. I’ll need to go recheck that.
    I also understand that the 2 outputs won’t be 100% identical, but I was hoping that once I dial in a tone that I like, it would be easily transferred to the other output without having to make big changes to make it sound good. IOW, I didn’t want to have to tweak the profile twice.

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from Kemper Support #1

    the difference is that the monitor cab off function only deactivates the cab for the monitor output. It will still be active for the other outputs so you can send the signal including the cab sim to the FOH.

    so for the sake of argument….you’re saying that if I turn off the cab sim for the mains, the tone will be exactly the same regardless of what output I send to the actual cabinet?

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from Kemper Support #1

    is the "monitor cab off" option in the output menu activated?

    ok, I played through the cab last night and with the box checked it made a big improvement.
    however, there’s is quite a big difference tonally between what the mains is outputting vs what the monitor out sends out.
    I’m not sure what that would be? All I was doing was taking the 1/4 Jack and moving between the mains out and the monitor out. It was still running to the Splawn Cabinet. All volumes/eq’s were set to the same parameters. Why would it sound different? Generally the monitor out was brighter and punchier.

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from Kemper Support #1

    it depends on the type of monitoring that you are using. If you use a FRFR cabinet you should leave the option unchecked. If you use a regular guitar cabinet or the Kemper Kabinet with imprints you should activate the option to switch off the internal cab sim for the monitor output. If you do not activate it you will send a cab simulated signal into a real cab which in most cases will result in a rather muffled tone.

    ok….this may be the issue.
    I am sending the monitor out to a Freyette LXII. Then into a Splawn 1x12 cab loaded with an Eminence EM12 speaker. So, not an FRFR.
    Hopefully this solves the issue. I will report back once I have the chance to plug in tonight.
    TIA (hopefully…lol)

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    I was originally turning the cab off from the actual panel of the the stack section of the Stage and not in the menu. (Monitor cab off)


    I believe the output source is set to monitor stereo. the mains output is set the same.

    I will need to check the panning in the panorama section. I saw that setting in the menu but didn’t touch it. Heck, I didn’t even know what it did. Lol

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Quote from parc

    You need to properly adjust the EQ, 120Hz and 3.9K cutting frequency, not the end, 1.5K frequency should be reduced by about 4dB, the sound is normal, otherwise it is now very bad sound, all the adjustment values are my reference values, you can set according to your own preferences.

    yes, I typically will both lo and high cut the extreme frequencies just because it sounds more like what a real guitar cab would naturally do to the tone.

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Yes, I looked at all of that.
    the eq for mains and monitor are both set the exact same already.
    I can’t readily see a parameter that would explain the drastic tone difference. And there is a big “feel” difference.
    the monitor out sounds /feels like when you turn the cab block off when running into your DAW.

    Not quite that drastic but it approaches that type of thing.
    harsh, sterile and brittle sounding and feeling.

  • Kemper through a real cab issues

    Hi

    I posted this in a couple of FB groups but I’m not really getting the help I need so I come to the experts here in hopes you can help me address these issues.



    I posted this same question in the KPA group. I’m hoping to get as much help/ideas as possible.


    Hey all…

    I need some help in setting up my K Stage.

    I’ve owned it for a couple of months and have always used it hooked up to my A/I and into my computer.

    But now I’m trying to get it ready for actual live use.

    I bought a Freyette LXII power amp and I’m running into a Splawn 1x12 cab with an Eminence EM12 speaker.

    I hooked it up for band practice the other night for the first time and was very disappointed.

    I ran the monitor out->input of the Freyette (not bridged)->cab.

    The Freyette is set to mono 8 ohms(same as cab).

    It sounded very digital and shrill. My bass player said it was cutting his head off. Lol. So I lowered the treble and presence and got through rehearsal.

    Today, I went and ran out of the mains output of the Stage with everything else the same. It sounded glorious…just like an amp in the room.

    I A/B with the monitor out and there is a huge tone difference going on.


    I went into every setting I could think of and I can’t see anything that is set differently or incorrectly.

    Not sure if this is important or not but the setup sounds infinitely better with the cab block turned on. I was always under the impression that the cab would be turned off when running into a real guitar cab but it sounded terrible when I do that.

    Anyone have any ideas what I can do to get the monitor out to sound exactly like the mains out?

    In an ideal live sitting want to run the mains out to FOH and monitor out to the onstage cab and I’d like them to sound the same.


    Also I noticed the when I plug into the left output of the Stage it has a huge volume drop….not sure if that is because the Freyette is set to mono? Again, I’m an ideal setup, I’d like to run stereo to FOH and mono to the cab. But I can tackle that after we fix the other problems.


    if there are any details that need clarification, please ask me and I’ll do my best to answer.
    thank you!


    This type of setup is new to me as I’ve always used a real amp up until now. Sorry if these are rudimentary questions but I truly am at a loss as to how to fix this.


    Any help/ideas here are greatly appreciated.

    TIA

  • Taking rigs off of the profiler and putting them into local library

    hey guys,


    I recently downloaded the Tone Junkie free profiles pack and imported them into my local library in the Rig Manager. I then uploaded them into the profiler stage. I guess I didn't realize just how many rigs were in the pack because there is just about double the factory installed rigs on the unit now. Although there are many great profiles in that pack, I'm frankly not going to use them all...not even close.

    The thing I'd like to do is take them off of the profiler and just have them in the local library. This way I can preview/edit them inside Rig manager and then when I find something I'd like to have permanently on the profiler I can just copy/move the rig there.

    So the question is...How can I get them off of the profiler, essentially undo the action of putting them there?