Posts by alltheusernamesweretaken

Quote from StefanErtle

Are you referring to pedals in front of a clean/crunch-profile? There it works ok for me. With saturated profiles not so much of a difference. Due to the KPA being a digital unit the point of getting digital clipping is closer with such option.

But u are right, an integration did not happen since 2020… would be interesting to get to know the priorities of Kemper as e.g. drives/fuzzes got so much attention and I have to admit - although this is the topic of the thread - I was not keen on that options. I would rather go for better mod-/tremolo effects.

Stefan,

I am referring to the built-in Kemper drives/boosts and their behavior in front of the profile stack.

Quote from Waxwing

Thanks alltheusernamesweretaken, it's good to know that is an option, after doing some research I have my heart set on a Morningstar MC8. Probably the most expensive option, but with the amount of pc and cc changes I want to program, having the option to edit via software (that is supported and frequently updated) is the ideal workflow, and being able to switch parameters without changes the Kemper rig via the mc8's switches gives me the most options.

MC8 is also a solid option.

KPA is literally the only guitar-related device, analog or digital, value priced or expensive, that takes this approach to boosts/drives in front of amps.

Give the ability for drives/boosts to be volume boosts (like the other 99.9%), and KPA becomes unbeatable.

When you consider that right now drives/boosts in front can lower rig volume but not raise it, you see how unnatural this behavior is.

Quote from Waxwing

I'm starting out on a MIDI pedal adventure and I've read that the Kemper can send up to two MIDI messages per performance.

I currently have 5 midi pedals (whammy, source audio reflex expression pedal, Morningstar ML5, Timeline and Big Sky), and could be tempted to acquire more... I would like to change to different presets on multiple pedals by changing performances. I'm sure I could do this through a computer, but on the rare occasion I might play live, I would hate to have to reconfigure my rigs, so I'm looking for an on the pedalboard answer.

To trigger more than 2 changes, I understand I would need some kind of midi hub/midi interface that can receive a PC message from the Kemper, then send out multiple simultaneous pc/cc messages on different channels.

When it comes to which one, I think I need some help.

Would the Strymon Conduit work?

https://www.strymon.net/product/conduit/

I was looking at getting the Blackstar Live Logic, the footswitches are maybe redundant to me, the main draw is that it has software to program all the midi messages, this whole enterprise is to stop bending down! But I can't see that you can program simultaneous messages.

https://www.pmtonline.co.uk/bl…CUGAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Any suggestions? Is there a workaround or a cheaper option? I'm UK based, so shipping & taxes make some boutique answers unfeasible, but any suggestions might help others with the same question. Also, how is the latency when doing this sort of thing?

Thank you.

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Conduit will do exactly what you are seeking, with the option of having a USB-MIDI interface with a computer.

Kemper MIDI Out > Conduit MIDI In.

Conduit MIDI Out to daisy chained downstream MIDI devices, have the devices you want to respond set to same MIDI channel as Kemper is sending PCs out.

MIDI Solutions also makes a 1-in/4-out MIDI splitter.

Drives in front of the stack cannot raise rig volume, i.e. for a lead boost, regardless of clean/dist sens settings.

This is counter to how boost pedals behave in front of amps.

There is some suggestion from Christoph that the volume compensation used to tame level changes from rig to rig is also affecting pre-stack drives. (link below)

If this could be modified, it would allow pre-stack drives to be used as something other than flavors of gain.

It seems an awful shame to waste morph function as a lead volume boost when a drive/boost in front should be able to do the trick.

Boost in X slot is also a poor solution.

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Quote from Finally

So is this exactly what a tube amp does? ie: you can't get a volume boost for a solo with a drive pedal?

“You can’t get a volume boost for solo with a drive pedal”

It appears with the kemper that the quoted statement is correct.

In a traditional rig, a drive pedal can increase the volume out of an amp.

I would like to humbly ask for consideration of allowing pre-stack drives to increase rig volume, to mirror the traditional use of drives/boost effects in front of amps for volume boosts.

My current workaround is to assign an effect button on the remote to both a pre-stack overdrive and a post-stack pure booster, as I don’t want to occupy the morph for this function. This also has the effect of having to essentially “give up” my first post-stack effect slot to a pure booster for every rig.

I am less than a week in with the kemper, but I’m already enjoying it a lot. With 10+ years of development, I recognize that there are likely many other considerations taken with regards to rig volumes and consistency, and implementing something like this would not be a simple task.

So I really appreciate any consideration given on this request!

Quote from Wheresthedug

True.

Increasing the volume of a boost or drive beyond 0db doesn’t increase the volume but it does increase the saturation of the tone. On the other hand reducing volume below 0db does reduce the volume of the rig.

Thank you for the response!

For example:

On a clean deluxe reverb profile, a kemper drive in front will not increase the rig volume no matter how high the volume or drive knobs. It will only saturate. This is regardless of any sens knob setting.

I am aware there are other ways to accomplish volume increases (morph, pure boost after stack, etc), but I would hope these workarounds are not necessary if there is a method someone could show me to utilize pre-stack drives for volume/solo boost as they are traditionally used.

I really enjoy the unit so far, and would appreciate any insight available.

Clickbait?

I’m brand new to Kemper (4 days as of today). I had a genuine question about this behavior and figured that was the clearest way of asking.

Quote from BayouTexan

True. But gain and saturation is perceived by humans as a volume increase.

Next question...

Respectfully, not in a live mix.

Quote from paults

False for me. What are your Input settings?

This behavior occurs regardless of clean/dist sens setting or the chosen overdrive.

Engaging a drive in front of the stack cannot increase the volume of a clean rig, only gain/saturation.