Posts by jimiyves

Quote from Wheresthedug

I have a pair of Mesa Theile cabs with EVM12L as well as Kemper Kabinet with a Kone. Unfortunately , I haven’t tried both speakers in the same cabinet so can’t give you a direct apples to apples comparison.

My observations are :

I used the EVM12L with both Rectifier and Mark Series Mesas for 25 years. Although I used to have a 1971 Marshall 412 with Pre-Rola Greenbacks I never liked it and always used the EVM12L so I know it pretty well and love it as a speaker.

Side but sid (albeit in very different cabinets) the Kone EVM12L imprint definitely has the flavour of the real thing but the original was still better to my ears. I have a feeling that a large part of that was the Theile cabinet though.

Power rating is pretty similar but if I was really slamming it I would trust the EV to take the punishment better than almost anything else. However, it is virtually to get a stage volume loud enough to worry about that anymore (which is a good thing in my book) so power handling is a non issue.

the weight (or rather lack of it) is a massive benefit from the Kabinet. If you use it in a Theile cabinet the weight will be closer but the Kone will still be significantly lighter than an EVM12L. To be fair a fully grown Rhino is probably lighter than the EV.

The EV isn’t even close to a flat speaker so running imprints with it doesn’t sound anything like using the Kone.

If you want the flexibility of running different speaker imprints tue Kone is a no brainer. However, if you like the EVM12L, don’t need to change speakers from rig to rig and don’t mind the weight I would stick with the real thing. For me I like the the different speaker options and LOVE the lack of weight so I use the Kabinet for a stage monitor at rehearsals or gigs (still going straight to FOH and getting most monitor via IEM). For home use I don’t even plug the Kabinet in and just use my studio monitors all the time.

Hope that helps a little.

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Thank you very much, it is the review that I was looking for.

I thought the EVM12L was flat, because its primary use was in FOH. And I use my Thiele cab to listen music in my computer ...

Maybe the Kone would be better for me.

Thank you all for your answers.

I know what you'are saying, I know well how to use the Kone. I have a Behringer A800 poweramp (class D), very neutral.

I was not clear enough : I just wanted to know if anybody would have tried both Kone and EVM12L.

Quote from Antipodes

The EV12L is one speaker but a good one in that cab. The imprints give the impression of a range different speakers installed in that cab. If that diversity sounds appealing you could give it a try. Many of us seem to be pretty happy with the Kone from all reports.

The other thing is that the Kone also functions as a quasi flat response monitor so you can play backing tracks through it as well as hearing full studio profiles through it with the cabs baked in. The Thiele cab has a particular frequency response - that response will be applied to everything coming out of the cab. There is some scope to tweak the response using the parameters that are there to adjust the Kone's response. If you think everything is too bassy, you could get if off the floor.

Thank you for your answer.

I use the EVM12L the same way than the Kone : for backing tracks and with imprints for the Kemper. The EVM12L is pretty flat, I wonder if I would hear a big difference with the Kone, used in the same way.

Hello,

I built a Thiele cabinet and bought a EVL12M. I use it with the Kemper Stage and it is very good. I use the imprints and it is good, but I wonder if it could be better with the Kemper Kone.

Does anybody know ?

Thanks.

Quote from guitarnet70

That would mean having a stand alone VST version of the profiler hosted on the server....ain't gonna happen, IMHO

That's why I said "I think it's difficult since we need a profil player ... "

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Don't think it is technically possible, they are not samples. As turnaround it would be good if people would post a clip (as many do on the Rig Exchange section here on the Forum)

BTW: welcome to both!

Why not have a guitar track (guitar only to sound card), or maybe 3 (1 for clean profiles, 1 for crunch profiles, 1 for distortion profiles), and the track will be played by the profiles.

I think it's difficult since we need a profil player ...

Quote from guitarnet70

Let's see if I can recall them all...

Fender: Champ, Deluxe, Twin
Marshall: several JCMs, Plexi
Carvin 100w combo (believe was X100)
Mesa: studio22, Mark II, caliber50
Peavey, and some other I don't remember anymore.

Rack: ADA mp1, Marshall JMP, Mesa Triaxis, old digitech and Rocktron stuff, almost everything from Line6... Lot of other stuff that has remained too short to still remember

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Thank you. So do you think KPA can exactly reproduce all these sounds ?

Quote from guitarnet70

Hope it met your expectations, for me it outperforms any gear I've owned in the past 30 years, including all tube stuff and rack systems...

What tube stuff and rack systems did you own please ?

Quote from guitarnet70

about 5kg

Thanks !

Quote from schneidas

I think Davide (guitarnet70) said that the effects in the KPA were as good as Lexicon. He should chime in here soon
(I never owned one, so I cannot comment. All I know is, that the effects of the KPA sound great)

As good as the Lexicon ? It's ok for me

Quote from Songwritersoul

I used a G2 for my live rig for years and I own an AxefxII. I can say that the Axe2 is easily as good as the Lexicon and WAY more powerful. The Lex always pissed me off because it had great sounds, but very anemic in processing power. I'll be able to compare the Axe2 and the KPA in about a week when the KPA gets here.

From what I've read so far, the KPA won't touch the Axe2 in terms of effects and routing possibilities. I'm much more interested in realistic, raw amp tone than I am the effects so I'm not worried about that.

In terms of routing possibilities I agree, but in terms of effects (I mean the quality), I read the KPA was maybe as good as the Axe2.

Quote from guitarnet70

Don't have a G2 to make a comparison, but they have a G-System and an Eclipse in the studio we use for rehearsal and I do not feel the need to use them. Clearly the Eclipse is fantastic (I also use to have one) but if I tune it down to what I actually use live (Chorus, delay and little reverb) the KPA is as good to my ears, If you make studio productions and/or you need to use a ton of FX maybe is different, but then again: in studio normally you get recorded dry and the fx are all added from the board afterwards. 8 FX blocks and (IMHO) the quality of them, are more than enough to make most people very happy.

No I don't need a ton of effects, a good reverb, good delays, a correct chorus, a correct wah, and a good pitch (which is missing now in the KPA), good eq.

I don't need to use them in studio context, only for guitar. So I think KPA effects are really enough for me (if they add a good pitch/harmonizer).

Does somebody know the weight ?

Thanks.

Quote from Songwritersoul

I used a G2 for my live rig for years and I own an AxefxII. I can say that the Axe2 is easily as good as the Lexicon and WAY more powerful. The Lex always pissed me off because it had great sounds, but very anemic in processing power. I'll be able to compare the Axe2 and the KPA in about a week when the KPA gets here.

From what I've read so far, the KPA won't touch the Axe2 in terms of effects and routing possibilities. I'm much more interested in realistic, raw amp tone than I am the effects so I'm not worried about that.

Thank you,

I had a Mpx-G2 and an Axe-Fx standard and I prefered the Lexicon effects, since they are warmer and sounds more natural than the Axe effects. The processing power of the Lexicon does not prevent me from using effects, since I don't use too many effects in one preset.

Maybe the Axe-II has better and warmer effects, but it is too expensive for me. I'm only interested by the KPA.

Hi,

Does someone own a Lexicon MPX-G2 and a KPA, and could tell me if the KPA effects are as good (better ?) as the Lexicon effects ?

Thanks !