Posts by GearJocke

Zero experience of his profiles but he says he's testing all his profiles and make sure they will fit in a mix. Something not all vendors do. Many of vendors profiles don't work in a mix.

We don't know if there will be a gap once it is released. So wait until then. It should be rreleased soon.

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oops, I should have noticed that too, sorry and thank you very much

You're not alone doing something similar.

A very underrated album from Nuno if you ask me. So much better than the last Extreme album, Waiting for the punchline, that was a big dissapointment at least for me.

Next time please, divide the text into paragraphs. It will make it easier for any reader.

Electronic music like that has never appealed to me. Let me say I enjoyed the girls more in the first video than the music.

Quote from Trint33

Hi again everybody,
Yes, you're right Ibot39 I'm not used to mic'd up guitar tones ;-).
I listen to stems from bands I like and each time there is something plenty of life in their tones that I not have with my kemper.
No misunderstanding, I'm not telling STL Tones are not good, I'm just telling that it's not what I expected.
I bought a Kemper after listening to STL Tones demos (which sounds awesome) to make my life easier and to track guitar and bass without dealing with technical stuff.
I want to record with the right sound in few seconds an idea I have in mind ;-).
Maybe I made a mistake and I have to learn a lot about the kemper unit and be better for tracking on my own.

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Just because you like some producers work and guitar tone doens't mean they will work for you. If you would enter one of their studio, they would create another sound and tone that will work great just for you and the rest of the band. I've purchased profiles that didn't work at all for me and I've purchased profiles that work for me. It's a gamble sometimes and happen to us all who purchase commercial profiles. But there are also great free profiles on RE. Oh I forgot I have a STL profile pack but it was created by STL and it's a Mesa pack. Great pack

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If you are not used too mic'd up guitar tones or almost "mix ready"profiles it will sound strange first.

You can search for "isolated guitar tracks" on youtube and have a listen to some famous songs. To get an idea how "good guitar tone" sound isolated.

STL profiles tend to have this produced character. They advertise that, like "outboard gear, ..., mixing tools implemented to get you as close to the producer's personal guitar tones as possible".

As already mentioned, many ingredients now influence the result. For example the pick (plectrum) used, can make a huge difference. Form, material, thickness...

Adding, that some of the pro's are really hitting the strings very hard in a recording situation.

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And how the bass and drums are recorded and mixed will determine how the guitar(s)will sound like with the rest.

Welcome

No there's no audio clip at the top.

Quote from Trint33

GearJocke,

Thanks for your advices.

In my example you think I should level down gain ?

Best

Pierre

I don't know how much gain you have. But record a couple of tracks and then record another couple of tracks with less gain and compare.

Quote from Trint33

@GearJocke,
I agree with you, each guitar player has his tone.
Maybe it's my playing which is crappy ;-).
Yeah I took care to be tuned like examples to compare with heavy string gauge (12-56 for drop C on my Les Paul and 14-68 on my baryton for drop B).

I'm not good at eqing ;-), I have to work on that, I know.
Yes I flip the phase but I found it strange to buy professional profiles and discover that it was out of phase.
From all your answers it seems I'm the only one to have issues with STL Tones kemper profiles, so I conclude it comes from me.
Thanks all you for your ideas.
I'll have some tests tomorrow.
Keep you posted.
Best.

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If you blend amp and DI tracks together you will phase issue many times. Even those producers will face the phase issue in their studios occasionally when they are sent tracks to mix, e.g. drum tracks.

And don't forget most metal songs have less distortion than you might think. With less it will force you to pick harder and also will sound thicker. Oh and another important factor is a well set up guitar.

Quote from Trint33

Hi GearJocke ,
thank for taking time to answer.
You're absolutely right, I have to listen to them in context and not alone.

In a mix they sound either too harsh/aggressive or drowned and blurry (I'm not a professionnal mixer ;-)).

Maybe I have not the right approach, I would like to have the right sound at tracking so as to not tweak too much after.

I think I may have to tweak settings to be close to the original sound.
To be honest, I don't know how.
Something strange too, on David Bendeth bundle, bass profiles Amp and DI seems not to be in phase.

Guitar, pickups and playing style matter alot. A vendor here did a test a couple of years ago with 4-5 different guitarists that used the same guitar, pick, kemper and profile. If the vendor had said nothing I would believed they all used either different guitars or profiles. So again how you play matter much. Many metal profiles are made with down tuned guitars and down tuned guitars with heavier string gauge, e g. 12-60, need clarity to cut thru a mix. So sometimes using that kind of profiles with a guitar tuned in E standard with 10-46 strings will sound harsh and too bright. But even well known producers have guitar tracks that are harsh and or have a whistle sound on the guitar tracks. Not uncommon. EQ in you DAW is your friend there and Soothe is a another great plugin for taking care of that.

Bass amp track, no matter if a kemper, other products or real amp has been used, will many times lead to phase issues together with a DI track. Flipp the phase on one of the tracks and compare.

Have you compared how they sound in a mix and not the profiles by their own?

Disocunt on the kemper? Not what I'm aware of. Even if it is you would still loose money ordering from Europe or US. You have to pay customs costs.

Some vendors will give youo a pdf list with the settings on the profiles. But most don't. But if you like how it sounds, just leave it as it is. If not, EQ a little and see if works. Needs too much EQ? Use another profile.

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Neural does great VSTs and it would be cool to be able to use them live with dedicated hardware. My one question on this is, how does it FEEL? What puts the Kemper head and shoulders over everything else I've ever played on is the feeling of playing it. The Helix feels dead by comparison.

I downloaded the Helix native that shold be the same as the hardware, stated by Line6 and...what? If this is like the hardware, I would have cried blood if I had purchased it. There was nothing I liked about it. There are so many better, cheaper and some even free, ampsims that are better than the Helix native. So when I got a email from Line6 and wanted to know my honest opinion about the plugin...I told them my honest opinion.