I've sold guitars so I guess I'm some kind of monster. ?
The horror!
(just kidding, I have too, but now it's been many years since I sold any)
I've sold guitars so I guess I'm some kind of monster. ?
The horror!
(just kidding, I have too, but now it's been many years since I sold any)
I’m always amazed how many people get stuck in a tone obsession. It drives the amp and pedal industry. To anyone on the outside it looks like insanity. I’m as guilty as any. I had a friend come over a while back and look at the 25 guitars I have in my music room and ask what the difference was. I said they sound different and I played a bit on two of them for him. He said yeah they did sound a little different but who cares. This is how everyone else sees our insane behaviors. Anyway I’m glad he said it because I think it was what got me putting lots of guitars in different tunings which has had me picking up more of them more often. I feel the same way about the quad cortex, kemper, axe fx 3, and helix. All of them are excellent tools and any one person is probably better off sticking to one and learning it in and out rather than chasing the latest thing. Gear obsession is mostly just a waste of time.
Amen. Sometimes I really think that indeed I would be happier with just one guitar, one amp, end of story...but when you get a new guitar it's like having a kid, how can you sell it? What kind of monster are you?!?
Sounds like you need to get "buffed up". 20 meters (65 feet)?
Yep, I know, it's a bit of a weird setup, but yeah. And to be honest, it's impressive that the Mogami 2524 loses close to nothing on such lengths (when I say a tad bit, I really mean a tad bit!)
Did anyone figure this out in the meantime?
I had to run a fairly long loop (~20m of cable), and I do hear a tad bit of highs rolloff. (Cable is great btw, Mogami 2524 with Neutrik connectors)
When comparing the Kemper to the QC for capturing, and having the reference amp still setup for comparison between all three, time and time again the QC gets closer to the real amp.
This isn't to be unexpected or a surprise. The Profiler has tech from a decade ago. Machine learning and AI assisted systems have moved on a lot since then.
No-one gets defensive or passionate when the next model of phone comes out and it has a better camera built into it. It's just the way technology evolves.
Also, you're making the fallacy of assuming new technology must necessarily yield better results, which might be often the case, but need not be (independently of my own personal preference for the KPA)
It is not that this would make anything I am saying any more valid, but yes I am.
Indeed it wouldn't (though I do agree on all you said).
/fanboymodeon
Hey man, thanks so much for decades of wonderful music. You guys made history. Please make more
/fanboymodeoff
If the point is that the QC doesn't have unlimited power I absolutely agree, there are limitations, no doubt about that. Since we are talking about Firmware 1.01 there is definitely room for improvement and I am pretty sure things will improve, but yes, right now there is a limit of what you can do, as there will always be a limit. But this was not my point, I only commented because the statement given here was that the QC can only 2 two stereo delays, which is not true. Nothing more, nothing less I also don't mean to praise the QC over any other device, I own it, I like it, but I also own a Kemper, a couple of Fractals and several tube amps and I like them all. And they all have limitations. The QC is not the end for the Kemper or the Axe FX, just like the Kemper was not the end for the Axe FX or the Axe FX was not the end for all tube amps. All of them are great tools, all of them deliver great sounds and all of them get the job done. Just use whatever suits you best and enjoy it.
I know this is off topic, but...are you *the* Marcus Siepen from Blind Guardian?
Another feature I'd really love to see.
Eh, I agree in principle, I disagree in practice because the KPA still sounds relevantly better to my ears.
Developing a new capturing/profiling technique does not mean developing a better one, and I am afraid for now that's indeed the case of the QC. Glad to be proven wrong in future updates.
My experience was 100% the exact opposite!
I'm playing with the QC some more tomorrow. Gonna capture the rest of my amps. But the Kemper delays are amazing - much better than the QC imho!
Well, lucky you, in a way
Honestly the amp tone of the Kemper is still unparalleled to my ears.
On the Profiler, you can.
If I got your message correctly ...
Yeah, right - but I meant controllable on the fly. Bit of a mood killer if I am jamming and I have to go dig into menus to adjust the volume...
What about the QC delays is better than than the Kemper?
Eh, they just sounds better. They've got a better sonic dough, if you will.
Oh, and also the wahs sound better IMO.
On the other hand, I don't like its reverbs AT ALL, modulations are inferior and the compressors...eh, maybe I can't use them cause no matter how I tried everything came out absurdly squeezed.
And of course when I plug in my Strymon stuff it crushes both of them without breaking a sweat
If Kemper releases a new device with a modern UI and faster convertors/lower latency a la RME it’s game over.
It's my wet dream. If they really took what they have, added UI/IO/routing of the QC (and improved, cause trust me it's far from perfect atm) I'd get it in a heartbeat.
(Oh, and a *serious* looper. Jeez, I can't even adjust the volume of the loop in this one, c'mon )
You Kemper super fans are a riot lol.
There is no way to tell diddly squat from two amps with the gain on 1 Billion.
Those sounds, regardless of where they come from, are completely lacking in dynamics.
Hearing somebody else's recording, maybe (but then again the same probably holds also for cleans and edge-of-breakup).
But I've now had the QC for over 3 weeks and, I'm sorry, but the KPA wins hands down. It just sounds and feels much better. To be honest, so far the only thing I found to be better on the QC is the delays.
in terms of processing power the QC should be slightly better than the Helix and quite better than the Kemper.
The Axe FX3 is much better than all of them.
Comparing cpu speeds is not the end of all though. CK is a genius who achieved everything using a 400mhz processor while Line6 has 20 years of experience in the business.
Fractal has both the experience and the hardware.
Remains to be seen how quickly can NDSP catch up.
Yeah, to me the Kemper is a testament to the fact that nothing is as effective as really nailing the algorithm - no matter how much hardware specs improve on the competition, profiles still sound like the most realistic thing out there.
Of course that doesn't mean that I wouldn't enjoy a KPA with even more power, cause I am pretty sure CK would do amazing things with it.
Do you know if the QC got a Output section like the Kemper? Hi/Low Cut Global, Global EQ, Main/Monitoring EQ and Volumes, etc etc.
Not at this time
The qc is said to have a latency around 3ms which is a comparable to the Kemper. I believe Amplifire’s latency is lower than 1.5ms. It doesn’t sound like much but it’s a noticeable difference.
I remember Doug Castro stating it was 1.8ms? Also, I never really know what signal path these figures are representing (is it 1.8ms with or without an amp model or capture or profile in the middle?)
3ms is as if you were one meter away from your speaker. I can't feel or hear any latency at 3ms.
Latency from distance from the source is perceived differently: our brains compensate for it interpreting environment's early reflection.
My opinion is that ndsp is not trustworthy And the main point of the qc is not about music but rather it is about a lifestyle product that generates the maximum income.
They got an investment of 5 million dollars that need to be justified. Selling 20000 ( hopefully ) 1700 dollar units doesn’t sound like much unless they are planning other means of making money which explains why the main focus is the social platform rather than the unit itself.
Fractal and Kemper are also expensive but I feel that passion for music and electronics is a big drive that made these units possible and in my opinion, reading the conversations on TGP, that seems to lack in ndsp.
Time will tell ...
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