Posts by CelticGibson

    I would like to try some Liquid profiling with a OD stomp in front of the amp. Specifically, the BE-OD. Will the LP model loose any accuracy when adjusting the model's gain in the Kemper?

    The Kemper should, in theory, accurately reproduce the response of the profiled amp with a OD going in the front if you change the gain. After all it is profiling the gain from zero to whatever you set the original gain at. Of course this is theory until someone does it and compares to a sweet spot gain level on the real amp.

    Someone (who has the beta and is familiar with profiling) could quite easily do this test: create a regular profile on whatever they consider the sweet spot of gain - say it's 6.5 - then create a liquid profile (with amp on full gain) and use the Kemper controls to reduce the gain to 6.5 on the resulting liquid profile. Does it sound the same/as good?


    Same thing could be tested with respect to the tone knobs - i.e. regular profile with amp's b/m/t knobs at e.g. 6/4/7 (or whatever sounds good) vs. liquid profile (made with amp's b/t/m knobs at noon) and subsequently setting the the Kemper's modeled tonestack to to 6/4/7.


    While the general response to LQP seems positive, there do seem to be some mixed reports, especially from people attempting to create their own liquid profiles. The above test(s) would help to demonstrate whether (or not) the modeled tone stacks and gain controls really are accurately replicating what the amp would do. If anyone fancied making a video with these comparisons, I've a feeling it'd get a lot of views!

    "Someone (who has the beta and is familiar with profiling) could quite easily do this test: create a regular profile on whatever they consider the sweet spot of gain - say it's 6.5 - then create a liquid profile (with amp on full gain) and use the Kemper controls to reduce the gain to 6.5 on the resulting liquid profile. Does it sound the same/as good?

    Guido Bungenstock
    did just that here...


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    If the profile was captured at a sweet spot of gain (where the gain is not set at full) and then you turn the Kemper gain above the perceived max of the profile gain, then the Kemper is guessing what the gain should sound like and it won't sound anything like the amp. Liquid profiles are profiled at max gain setting on the amp and this provides the profiler with an accurate full range of gain for the profile thus allowing you to adjust the gain to any amount within the actual range of the amp while theoretically maintaining authenticity of the amp.

    From this video, it's clear that the LP is profiled with the amp EQs set at 12o'clock position and gain up full thus disregarding the "sweet spot" settings usually applied with a regular studio profile. This should theoretically mean that you don't need more than one LP of any amp going forward...

    These must be the LPs provided...

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    I can imagine new liquid profiles are going to be much more accurate than existing profiles at accurately emulating the gain structure since you have to profile at full gain on the reference amp and 12oclock on all tone controls without focusing on the sweet spot. It seems LPs allow you to dial in your sweet spot instead of one static one chosen for you by a profiler. The existing profiles will have a gain limitation built in thus limiting the range an added LP gain stack can do. That's my take on it..

    I totally get that change is part of life but it is odd they seem to have completely stopped offering something that was already available, as you suggested. Maybe there is more to the story than we will ever know.


    I suppose I will just have to enjoy the ones I already have and forget about the others.

    I imagine it costs to maintain a website and the sales didn't meet those costs and be able to maintain a profit from existing profiles.

    It seems the usual hyperbole abounds whenever a new thing is revealed by Kemper.

    There was no mention of better tone. The team never said that the tone would change in any significant way and since this is a EQ update, why would it? As far as I can see, Liquid Profiles were specifically created to allow the user have the same tonestack control over a static profile that so many complained was lacking in the profiler. Now it's a reality. No more, no less.

    While some may allow some flexibility while maintaining the authenticity of the amp, Marshall tonestacks are crap and Kemper are authentically reproducing them, crap and all. 😎👍

    By default, the USB audio feature is set to "Amp Recording" mode so you shouldn't have to change anything in the USB audio menu on the profiler. If you set your audio output on your computer to the "Profiler" and then play a YouTube video or some other source, the sound will play back through the profiler and out to your monitoring solution you use to hear your guitar.

    I never understood tantrums from adults. If the owner of a company tells you that this is the way his product works and the rationale behind it then either accept it or go purchase something else. The arguments have been made and considered. That should be enough. It's not a democracy. It's a company. If you want to protest then protest with your wallets. There are other brands available that might do what you want them to do.

    Profiles have always been interactive. It's one of the profiler's stand out features. The Clarity and Definition controls alone can change drastically the character of any profile. Other units just give you EQ to shape your sound after the fact. I imagine LPs will be an extension of the Clarity and Definition controls and allow you to alter the characteristics of the profile based on EQ curves from existing Tone stacks.

    In the head and rack, you get two USB tracks going into the DAW. You assign what they represent in the Profiler. For example. If you want the Master Stereo, you just choose it in the Profiler and then choose a stereo track in your DAW with Profiler1 and 2 selected. If you want DI and a MONO track of the Master, you select them in the Profiler and the DAW you select two MONO tracks. Does that make sense?

    The Stage has Eight USB tracks that are assignable along with a dedicated stereo pair. Amazing stuff.,

    just tried the USB audio on my Kemper toaster with ASIO4ALL and Reaper. It worked flawlessly. I had a stereo track going into Reaper from the profiler and was able to play back a backing track and my guitar playing simultaneously back through the Kemper headphone out with near zero latency. That's quite the update I must admit. Fantastic work by the Kemper team. 😎👍