Posts by Steve5478

  • ToneX One

    I don't know where we are going to with all these posts which analyse in detail IK marketing semantics

    It's funny what you bold in those sentences. Personnaly, i would have bold and underlined : You can even load models of your own gear captured


    And, i don't why, but it reminds me a device i know. ;) :/

    We can play with words but Tonex can play your duplicated gears (you need a Tonex Capture (hardware) to).... I assume we'll see devices that will "reproduce", "duplicate", "copy","replicate".....

  • High cut/low cut how is this supposed to work on both the Cabinet section and the Output section?

    Low/high cut is a filtrer. If you have 2/3 filter per rig, there's no problem, the first one set at 10KHz will get rid of higher frequencies, the second one can be set at 7KHz to get rid of frequencies between 7KHz and 10KHz...

    Normaly, you'll set the opposite way with a larger range on the output block and a more short range in the cab block to have a specific setting for a particular rig/speaker....

  • ToneX One

    Quote from Ruefus

    I don’t think so. Directly competing with others doesn’t seem like Kemper’s way. They do their own thing.

    Kemper, as every companies, has to sell products to survive.They could navigate the way they wanted cause they purposed a totally different thing with profiles instead of models for many years....

    Competitors have purposed profiling (hybrid solution in fact profile or models) with Headrush, MOOER and Quad Cortex but it seems not to have caused any problem (the price tag was upper/close).

    But ToneX seems to be the first troublemaker in the game...

    I have a deep respect in Kemper's choices, how the devices are designed, i totally agree with what it purposes and what it doesn't, how reliable and "yearproof" it is but it's not a question of doing like others and choose to do the same or not, it's a question of what others purpose for less money and how they gonna react...


    Quote from ajbsmirnoff

    but I can't see everyone ditching their Kempers to go full Tonex. Though I can forsee a plethora of Youtube videos suggesting "Everyone is selling their Kempers" like the "Everyone has sold their Helix" videos last month.

    I'm not so Xtrem ;) ^^

    I don't think everyone is gonna sell their Stage for a ToneX One tomorrow.

    But many will buy this cheap little toy to hear what is under the bonnet...

    And as vjau75 said, if they want to jump on a big brother, customers will have a reference in ToneX sounds familly and will automatycally ask themselves what misses between K & ToneX and how they can fill the gap but the amount of money they save will be a really good point to answer this question....

  • High cut/low cut how is this supposed to work on both the Cabinet section and the Output section?

    Quote from Wheresthedug

    Could you clarify whether both sections work at the same time or if changes to the Cabinet Mode override the Output Section settings in a similar way to Pure Cabinet or Default Speaker Imprint V Rig Specific Imprint?

    IMO, it doesn't act the same way as imprint mode in which an imprint take place of another one but i asssume it's cumulative and take the lower setting for a highcut and the higher one for a lowcut. I imagine you can have in output section a setting at 65Hz-15000Hz to encompass all your rigs and a setting at 90Hz-8500Hz in cab's block for a particular speaker ?!

  • ToneX One

    Quote from OneEng1

    I think that before ToneX can be considered a competitor to Kemper Player, it will need to greatly up its game in efx processing.

    Since day one, i complain due to Players' limitations, i was explained that it's not its destination, it's not an all in one solution, it has to be put on a pedal board, it's a perfect solution if you use 2/3 rigs, the few FXs blocks and FXs number are not a problem.

    Today, i'm boring cause I don't want to waste time rethinking my rigs due to those limitations and just want to drag and drop things i've already created.... I'm really impatient to see unlocked features (and see how much i have to add)....


    When i see this little toy, it's clearly the target we are talking about and a bargain to enter into profiling world (and ToneX seems not to be bad at all) ! Of course, it has more limitations, you can use two amps, the number of amp/cabs loading is limited but for the price difference you can unlock features, buy Fxs pedals, etc.....

    Honestly, if it was launched before, i don't know if i wouldn't have tried it to wait for Players unlocked features....


    I think that Kemper has really to be worried ; as OP said, this price is aggressive and will probably attract a lot of customers....

    IMO, this little toy will stay as it is and won't purpose FXs and more possibilities but IK has a lot of softwares and can easily update/upgrade ToneX (if it's possible) or we can imagine a ToneX Stage at 700/800€....

  • Next OS update

    Don't know, IMO, it's already done but i assume they are working on fee Player's upgrade too (cause many waits for this too ;) :evil: ), and probably launch those two upgrades/updates at the same time....

    I think they still have questions about business model, what to purpose at which price point, etc...

    I don't know if Player's production is not their priority too for the moment, it's still hard to buy one...

  • Compact 2x12 Horizontal STEREO Power Kabinet

    I don't think it will happen....


    Kemper already purposes 1 Passive Kabinet and 1 PowerKab....

    The only other competitor who purposes "amp in the room" is L6 with Powercab familly.... There's a Powercab(1x12")/Powercab+(1x12") and a Powercab 212 (2x12").

    They are all powered and the speaker sim (without mic) is in the device.... It's cool cause you can use those cabs with everymodeler on the market but there are only these three solutions.

    With Kones you can built whatever cab you want and i assume Kemper won't purpose other Kemper cabs....

  • Two Profiles at the same time

    Quote from lbieber

    OK, but the comment wasn't made regarding who carries the equipment. Is the subject changing or did I miss something?

    You're right ; the way to obtain this is not the subject... But it's interesting ; if guitarists use a traditionnal rig for 2 // amps/cabs will they take the plunge for a profiler ?


    To answer OP's question , there are two solutions ; implemented on current Head/Rack/Stage (and i'm really curious to know how it could be set on the hardware) or launch a Kemper 2...

    As you underline it, few players use parallel path (we can already have multipath with an amp and profiles to FOH ;)) .... Is that an argue to buy a new Kemper ; for me ; NO.

    The question is there in all i see in "feature requests", the first one i always ask myself is ; is it able to have this in our current devices ? Kemper has updated their units in a fantastic way during the last 5 years, i don't know the limits and how they can still do improvements but i'm sure we'll have good surprises....

    May be i'm not objective cause my Stage is close to perfection and i could easily live with few evolutions (i'll stay happy) and i've understood that "beautifull, cool and apealling" is not what i'm after, i would have not bought a Kemper 8o , but use and sounds :love: :thumbup:


    Say differently ; Do i want to put another 700/1000€ on the table (and sell my Stage) for a Kemper 2 cause it brings parallel path, the answer for me is no way....


    NB : i have nothing against features i don't use... I do photography and, as i read it, we only use 10/15% of Digital camera's capabilities ; differently.

    I assume the question for Kemper is : what could motivate users to buy a new unit ? Do we maintain Head/Rack/Stage (and i'm sure Christophe cares about his babies ;) :)). IMO, he will make it last the more he can... It doesn't mean a new product can't exist ;)

  • Two Profiles at the same time

    Quote from Ruefus

    Just as an FYI, because I too thought the Turbo was ridiculous, but there was a method behind it. They added the Turbo due to supply chain shortages (COVID):

    Didn't know this reason... I stayed on the complaint from users on many forums with limited CPU (i assume you have to load many FXs...) and that on Fractal's website :

    "The new FM3 Mark II Turbo was released in July 2023. This advanced and compact floor unit builds on the success of the original FM3, now boasting over 10% more DSP power"...

  • Two Profiles at the same time

    I don't know how you can advance these numbers and these conclusions ?!

    Does the Profiler need more chips ? I can not tell so. All i can see is that it has been upgraded/updated through the years with the original one ; Yes !

    Profiles are light and even with Imprints/Delays/Reverbs/Drives/Liquid upgrades, no need to change chip... How can we say it's cheap ?!

    It's old and this tech seems enough for the Profiler ; It seems reliable too ;) That's it.... It just means C.Kemper anticipated needs ! :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Can a rig support 4 parallel paths with 32 FXs blocks currently ? May be or may be not... Don't know.

    Even 2 // paths, IMO it can be done but the other question would be to know if the ergonomic is enough good to install it on Head/Rack/Stage. It could be easy on Rig manager but on the hardware itself, i'm not sure.... This could be the reason to launch a K2...


    I don't know if Fractal's products are a good example.... I'm not sure there's a huge difference in amps/cabs modelisation between FX 2 / FX 3....

    The chip was so weak they had to launch quickly a FM3/FM9 Turbo, what a pity !! I would not have to sell a FM3/FM9;;; :rolleyes: ;(

    It was too early to name them FM4/FM10 :D


    To come back to OP's question, i don't know in what form this could be done, if it needs another hardware or not ?! But, imo, the main current brake is that Kemper team doesn't see the reason why to implement this feature.... They don't use to copy others just because it's done elsewhere....

  • Two Profiles at the same time

    Quote from Grooguit

    For what it’s worth they’ve indicated that that’s never gonna happen. I believe because of DSP, but also be an organizational nightmare from the way everything would be laid out GUI on a unit that was not built for that.

    Also, for my experience, having owned a quad cortex for a month before returning, I could never find a combination of amps to use in parallel that I liked better than any single amp combination.

    Entirely agree with you !!!

    I've played with modelers' parallels paths possibilities ; Wet/dry/wet ; 4 amps/cabs in //, it's fun 5 mns but you stop quickly.... At the same time, there's another guitarist in our band.

    But I've never seen guitarist using rigs that way (on stage).... :/


    Quote from Toneseeker

    Besides dual processing for giant amp tones or being able to dual process an instrument with mag and piezo pickups, it would be cool if a guitar and bass player could use the Kemper simultaneously for a recording.

    Would it be convenient to set it ? I've tried that with Helix and a second path for another guitarist, it's not practical at all....

    IMO, for recording, plugins are more efficient or a solution where everyone has their own device.... and IMO, Kemper prefer sells 2 devices instead of one ;) :)

  • Kemper Player vs Quad Cortex

    Quote from Wheresthedug

    Nobody gigs for a living anymore 🤦‍♂️ Those days are long gone. Its all about YouTube/Instagram/TickTock views and advertising revenue now. I’m pretty sure they beta tested with a lot of “influencers” so live use never really raised its ugly head. The market for people playing at home is probably exponentially greater than the market for people actually gigging so their decision is that baffling to me. Although the QC wouldn’t work for me, and I don’t personally like the Neural plugins that I’ve tried, I can see how they could have arrived at their design decisions.

    I won't criticize this unit cause i've never tried it.... And don't know if i could not get used to this tiny box !?


    But it's interesting to say that it's done for geeks or Utubers.... The first thing i do when a new unit is announced is to jump on Utube to watch vids about it (them). And the least i can say, is that a lot of ones are not made in the appropriate case the hardwares were done for. To be fair, i've watched Profiler Stage's first Vids made by many different Utubers and a lot of them are made with the Stage elevated from the ground on a desk or on a stand....And switches are pushed by fingers :) ;)

    I assume with its touchscreen and its turning parameters buttons/switches, QC's tests are the same....


    Many poeple like QC form factor to put it down on their desks....

    As always, you have to find the unit that suits best for you following your needs, and sometimes it's hard to X/ ;(

    I've reached my goal with Kemper Stage <3

  • Kemper FX liquid Profiling!

    Quote from Dynochrome

    I have always been fine with amp snapshots, using the stock Kemper EQ and gain to tweek. I really don't have much need /*/for amplifier liquid profiling. Yes it's cool, but not needed.

    What I think would be better implemented is Liquid FX profiling of popular and vintage modulation FX. Example: M117 Fanger, Electric Mistress, ADA flanger, Phase 45/90/100, Boss chorus CE1, CE2.

    Isn't it the case today ?


    Kemper's Stack are closer to an IR, i mean, it's a fixed "picture"/snapshot of an amp+cab+mic.... You can play with parameters to modify the sound but not the way you do with an actual amp (or a modeler).

    Liquid has been launched to fill this gap.


    For FXs, you've got exactly the same as on real pedals.... The only difference is that, instead of having 6 different wah wahs, delays, etc... Kemper offers all the settings in one FX with no limit to encompass all the possibilities. They already offer "808 mid" "CE1" settings. So, IMO, it's already a "Liquid" or "modeling" FX ?!

    Maybe i'm wrong, don't know....


    Would you like to have closer FXs sims ? For Example ; This type of chorus has got only two buttons, the deep goes from .... to .... and the rate from ..... to ..... limits....

  • Branchement enceinte monitoring kemper amplifié ?

    Essaye directement le branchement du Kemper dans tes enceintes de monitoring, ce sera le plus simple et tu pourras avoir un résultat immédiatement... Faut juste partir des main output du Kemper et entrer dans les inputs de tes enceintes. Il faut régler dans le block output : Master stéréo mais je crois que c'est le réglage par défaut. Ensuite, s'amuser et faire des essais d'effets/réglages...

    Pour le hx fx, il est plus adapté à un câblage avec ampli traditionnel... C'est moins simple....

  • Branchement enceinte monitoring kemper amplifié ?

    Il n'y a pas de problème, je n'attends rien en retour, juste le plaisir de savoir que mes conseils auront pu aider quelqu'un. J'ai même fait une visio avec un possesseur de l'Helix il y a peu pour échanger ;) :)

    On a une passion commune et je me suis appuyé sur l'expérience d'autres personnes qui ont sû me transmettre leurs connaissances pour à mon tour les partager...

    Maintenant, en affaire de sons, il y a la théorie (qui nous fait largement avancer plus vite, dont le maniement des bestioles) et on a le droit de sortir des sentiers battus pour découvrir/créer d'autres sonorités.


    Oui, tu peux brancher ton ampli Orange d'un côté (Attention à bien utiliser un câble speaker qui accepte le courant contrairement à un câble instrument), et le Laney de l'autre... Par contre, je n'ai pas le head donc je ne sais pas si c'est possible de lui dire "stéréo" sur ces deux sorties ?!

    Pour le Orange , il faudra que tu coche "Cab Off" et pas "Kone". Le son du côté Orange changera moins car l'enceinte a une incidence importante sur le rendu sonore


    Sinon, je vois que tu as des enceintes de monitoring. Tu pourrais t'éclater avec ton son stéréo dessus. Je joue à la maison avec une de mes enceintes de monitoring, ça convient très bien. ;) J'imagine qu'elle a des entrées Jack ou XLR, du main output du Kemper à chaque enceinte et roule !!!! :thumbup:


    Pour le branchement à ta carte et faire de l'enregistrement, c'est simple aussi (directe carte son), je n'ai pas essayé avec l'audio intégré depuis peu directe ordi et j'avais acheté une carte son également mais le plus dur , c'est davantage les logiciels d'enregistrement, etc....

  • Les francophones c'est par là - french kemper users

    Quote from waraba

    Il est possible de profiler des pédales , mais le plus souvent c'est une pédale de disto, overdride ou préamp devant un ampli.

    Oui, le souci est là avec les pédales profilées ; elles sont liés à un ampli également profilé, donc ça veut dire qu'il faut trouver l'ampli qu'on veut avec la/les pédales devant qu'on souhaite et le tout réglé comme on aime ; autant dire pas forcément facile à trouver....


    Sinon, pour les effets (la plupart), il faut descendre dans les menus et pour une drive par exemple, tu descends jusqu'au type de drive "reproduite". Mais en fait, la façon dont travaille Kemper pour ses effets est un peu à l'inverse des autres modélisateurs. Sur un modélisateur, ils ont modélisé un type de pédale, reproduit exactement les mêmes boutons que l'on trouve sur la vraie et appliqué les minis/maxis de chaque bouton.

    Kemper fait les choses différemment, ils créent une seule drive qui va balayer toutes celles existantes....Voir même certaines qui n'existent pas.

    Pour la Wah, c'est pareil, en fait dans le Kemper, il n'y a qu'une seule Wah. Faudrait faire une recherche sur le forum mais quelqu'un a listé les réglages et la wah réelle à laquelle ça correspond....