Workflow and other questions about saving tweaked performances and rigs

    I'm a pretty ("relatively", not "attractive") new user to the Kemper, having upgraded from a Boss GT100. On both systems, I used SetList Maker on an iPad to send program changes for songs to the processor, and have that working nicely via a bluetooth midi adapter.


    My approach is to have a rig for each song, knowing that some will have the same exact settings, but renaming them so I can paste 5 songs into each Performance, then call up the performances and slots via the setlist. The "plan" was, for example, for some instruments to have a basic clean or effected setting that is the template for similar songs; example - a clean Martin D28 with light Chorus that could then be copied to a couple different rigs in my local Rig Manager library under the related song names, then paste those songs into slots on the Profiler performances. Subsequent "tweaks" to the local library rigs could simply be re-pasted into the various performance slots as needed. This seemed to work fine, until the reality set in that at rehearsals (and presumable gigs down the road) I find that what sounded good in the studio, need to be tweaked.


    Changing to "Browser" mode, loading the rig, tweaking, and re-saving, etc. is pretty time consuming and requires the coomputer to be used, which is awkward at best in a rehearsal setting.


    I can tweak the setting in the performance, save it, and save the performance to the local library in Rig Manager, but what I'd really prefer is to save the performance to the Profiler, then later extract that "tweaked" rig from the slot and save it back as a Rig in my local library and/or Profiler


    I can't seem to figure out how to do this. It appears that once a Rig is pasted into a performance, it goes into a black hole and can only be accessed through the Profiler vis a vis the performance mode settings. In fact, I believe that pasting a Rig from the local library does not automatically create a rig that is visible from Rig Manager on the Profiler; it appears that the Rig is stored within the Performance itself.


    Is there a way to tweak a rig in a performance slot, then save it back to Rig Manager (or the Profiler, for that matter) as a Rig that can be the new template for that particular instrument and sound?


    Thanks for your help!


    Jerry

    Once you have stored a rig in a performance, you can copy and paste that rig into any other performance. I infrequently use browse mode for this reason. once you have tweaked the rig, just save the whole performance. After this you can copy and paste the original or tweaked rig into any new performance and do the whole process again. You should have a button to replace performance in RM when editing there. I hope this is addressing your issue.

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    Thanks, everyone! I'll look for the "Export to browse pool" option on the unit. Didn't see a corresponding item on Rig Manager, but that could be a "trifocal error" on my part, or the same issue - exporting to browse pool vs "save as rig".


    You guys Rock!

    Just a quick follow-up and. This worked great! I didn't see an option to export to a rig in the Windows version of Rig Manager, but the front panel save from the unit works great. (The "Replace Performance" option does appear in Rig Manager, and it works fine.)


    I think I discovered a bug in the Windows version of Rig Manager in that after tweaking a rig in a Performance slot and saving to the browser pool, it does not appear in the rig listings on Rig Manager until I force the PC to re-sync by unplugging and reconnecting the Kemper unit. That threw me for a loop before I figured it out. Don't know if the IOS version has this issue or not, as I'm not a Mac person.


    Thanks again, everyone, for your help!


    Jerry