They hinted at payed upgrades. Just like the H9.
Please note that this is something they've only started considering in the company - absolutely nothing is set in stone. And if it does come it's probably not just around the corner.
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The point where this rationalization falls apart is when the manufacturer contradicts it by saying, "This unit is at price point X because we have put so much hardware in there and all of this costs amount Y so while we'd be glad to offer the unit at price point Z we just can't and X is really the best we can do."
Of course both can be true: that what you wrote is true, and that the manufacturer is explaining the price exactly how I paraphrased.
Which leaves only one conclusion: they are lying. Doesn't matter in which way exactly, as all options leave a bad taste in the mouth.
Let me prove this with a comparison to the market where price discrimination has been abused the most. Ironically it's the automative sector, which links the comparison nicely to Kemper being out of Germany.
VW and BWM started a subscription scheme a few years back, with BMW going as far as offering seat heating as a sub. But the seat heating hardware was installed in every car from the factory. VW is charging a sub fee for voice recognition. The hardware is in every car. Tesla is offering full autopilot capabilities, the hardware is already in there.
Now the contradiction: all car manufacturers, in particular out of Germany, have claimed for many years that the price increases from 2020 onwards were purely driven by a component shortage, and basically they blamed the consumers for imaginary demands for more smart features, They increased prices and said they're simply passing on increased manufacturing costs and there's really nothing they can do about, with some going as far as claiming they wish they could offer a lower price point but they simply can't.
Not only is this contradicted by many years of car manufacturers being caught installing hardware that isn't unlocked through a sub or through a "facelift" (where it turns out the lower-priced pre-facelift car already had the electronics for the "new" feature), it's also contradicted by the recent situation in Germany where out of nowhere the federal government ended an EV subsidy. Suddenly all the manufacturers that proclaimed for many years they could offer no lower price point chipped in and said, no problem, we'll give you an instant rebate of 4500 Euros.
Price discrimination is really just a rationalization of consumer fraud.
I'm trying to figure out if this post is directed at Kemper or the automotive industry
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why take the DLC road ???
To keep it at a lower price point, I guess - for the ones who don't use effects much.
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Well I may have posted too early. This morning the iPad software can’t find the pedal and just keeps spinning. The green light is on the pedal so it should be connecting. Frustrating. I’ve rebooted the pedal and the iPad. Just won’t connect.
Try turning the iPad in airplane mode and switch it back again
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Who can create a sound patch with only 4 fx slots?
*raises hand*
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Anyone who knows a thing or two about digital audio will also tell you.
...But not three.
You don't think the guys at Kemper know a thing or two about digital audio...?
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I wonder - are you connected via an USB hub, or is the USB cable connected directly to the computer and the Kemper?
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Overtones are not "any" frequencies.
They sit sit at very clearly defined intervals from the fundamental.
Whether you want to identify them as inharmonic is up to you.Question: How do you label frequencies in the broadband signal that is NOT at a defined interval from the fundamental?
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I kinda recall either on here or an interview with someone from Kemper that explained it as the distortion/ harmonic thing but I haven't searched for it I was being lazy and figured some others would know.
NOW you tell us!
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Oh, that looks awesome!
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If it were ‘just’ an EQ, then people would’ve been using EQs to do the same thing for ages.
At least to my ear…..that’s not what’s going on.
On second thought I suspect that you're right.
For reference, here's what the manual states in full:
QuoteDisplay MoreThe “Definition” parameter controls the characteristic fingerprint of the preamp. The PROFILING process
automatically sets “Definition” to a value that represents the reference amp. You could, for example, use it to
modernize the PROFILE of a vintage amp without having to use additional effects. Alternatively, start with a
PROFILE of a modern tube amp, and use “Definition” to give it a more vintage sound when driven into distortion.
You can also use “Definition” to align the sound of your guitar to the sound of your amp, if required. Don’t be afraid to
keep experimenting until you get the balance that sounds best to you.
Vintage amps distort the lower harmonics in the guitar signal which gives them their bluesy sound. These amps were
originally designed to deliver a clean sound, so if you want a creamy distortion, these amps need to be driven by a
typical transistor-based device like a treble booster. Modern tube amps use a different approach, in which the higher
overtones of the guitar strings are the driving force for the distorted sound. The expensive boutique amps take this
concept one step further, by providing an extreme level of top-end frequencies and a large dynamic range. The
distortion has a sparkling quality to it and preserves every nuance of the strings and pickups. Together with the
characteristics of the actual speaker, the individual distortion behavior creates the fingerprint that identifies the
amplifier.
...which doesn't explain much in the way of how the specific definition control relates to the sound or how it works - it first talks about the control in very vague terms, than goes on to describe the sounds of actual amps - without really linking the two (or even explaining how a profile reacts to changes to the control, higher or lower).
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I'm going with the belief that definition is adjusting if high or low harmonics (overtones?) are being selectively distorted and how much.
That's in essence the effect of what I describe. It's what you're saying here already, just want to be clear
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A harmonic is, by definition (no pun) a clean multiple of the fundamental (2, 3, 4, 5.....etc). Overtones can be any frequency, so long as its above the fundamental. So, a harmonic is an overtone, but an overtone doesn't have to be a harmonic.
Good point.
Though in the description above I'd guess that both words should be "overtone", since I'd assume that an amp - vintage or modern - has no way of discerning whether something is an overtone or a harmonic.
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Difference between harmonics and overtones aside (which I think are one and the same), I've always understood it like this:
Higher definition - more lower frequencies are rolled off before signal is being fed into the overdrive/distorting part of the signal processing;
Lower definition - less roll-off of lower frequencies, meaning the overdrive or distortion will be driven (ha ha) mostly by the lower frequencies, as these lower frequencies have more energy per "frequency band". Which can lead to muddiness if overdone.
I think of it as a tilt EQ applied to the distortion generator (for lack of better terminology).
All of the above is speculation on my part.
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Should be here in the next day or two. Bought one that was Faded Blue in September but wasn't able to play it for a few weeks because of a self inflicted palm injury.
Once I had the opportunity to play it, I liked it enough that I decided to sell the three electric guitars I had and get another 24-08. I liked the others, especially the EBMM Cutlass, but I don't do well switching from one neck profile to another, shouldn't be an issue now.
NOICE
Don't leave them hanging in the sunlight. At least some years ago (and I don't think it has changed, I could be wrong), the blue colours faded awfully much over time.
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Even when the plastic guard is shielded underneath I will get some static buildup.
Is the shielding grounded?
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Shouldn't the user be notified that the backup that is about to be performed will do not good since the data is corrupt?
This makes a lot of sense to me.
Forcing a backup before updating absolutely does not. But a reminder/pop-up might be the golden middle ground.
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What I thought the presenter was really saying is that we should be wary of just automatically using a HPF at a set frequency on every track (because youtube “experts” say so). This would have the danger of creating a significant buildup of unwanted frequencies at the crossover point. Whereas using your ears and applying HPF where required at the appropriate frequency for that specific signal would avoid this as you would have little boosts in many diff places.
That's also what I got from it
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the thing is: if for example you you make a high pass at 80hz, you are also boosting around 80hz +3db
Well, it depends on the slope of the filter. Might be more, or it might be less.
I wouldn't say this is a "problem" of high pass filtering, just the way they work. It can be advantageous or disadvantageous. This is why we mix with our ears, not our eyes
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Whether you morph via generic gain or the LP gain control - you'd use your ears, I assume, not the numbers on the display?
Using the generic gain for morphing is not a "quirky workaround".
