Me again, how to SPDIF?

Quote from lasvideo

The smaller Scarlet might work. Buy it thru Amazon. They have a great return policy for most products.

http://www.amazon.com/Focusrit…ywords=focusrite+scarlett

Yikes. Good to know. I think the OP wanted to use SPDIF.

The DI sounds ok, nothing that i would regard as faulty.
Here's the reamped tracks, one is a profile of my Marshall, the other the same but with the gain dialed down and a fuzz added. Your DI file is 16bit, you should set your DAW to record in 24bit as the Profiler is set to 24bit 44.1kHz.
Is this closer to what you'd expect?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.…philuk/Marshall%20TSL.aif

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.…Marshall%20TSL%20Fuzz.aif

I recorded single track only. The level and loudness are ok on my system, running Logic X and a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 via SPDIF.

I think that i had some crackles when the DAW was set to record in 16bit.

How did you record your DI? Using the Profiler or direct to the interface?

Quote from PhilUK84

I'm going to buy the Scarlet Focusrite 18i8. Will this be sufficient?

How did you get the low end in your clip? Was it a fuzz in the distortion slot?

Regarding the interface it depends on what you want to accomplish. For homerecording the Profiler the 6i6 would suffice as it brings everything you'll need for a decent home set up. When you are planning to do some multitrack recording with your band the 18i8 is the better choice.

Regarding the tones i used profiles of my Marshall JCM2000 TSL100 through a Engl 4x12 V30 cab, miced with a 57. One version has the Muffin stomp in it, the gain was dialed down (6.6 on th erig without Fuzz, 5.5 with added Fuzz). Check them out and tell us how they work for you:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.…014-05-29%2022-32-12.kipr
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.…014-05-29%2022-33-15.kipr

Just let me know when you need help.

I did not increase any level, just sent the DI to the Profiler and recorded the reamped sound. Have you checked the rigs? How do they sound when you use them with your guitar?

Quote from PhilUK84

Okay I got my 18i8!

It seems the front 4 inputs are both mic and line in. Does that mean that I can use them and adjust the gain if I want to go that route? If I want to record a DI should I use 3? So 1 & 2 for stereo and then 3 for DI?

Otherwise I'll go SPDIF? How is gain set via SPDIF? Or is t not?

The ones at the back are line input. 4 of them. But they have no gain control, what are they for?

Mix control is confusing too, but I think I get it. It basically allows me to have a lot of control over the levels before I send it to the DAW? Anything I should know, any rules?

Thanks.

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Your best bet is to use s/pdif for both di and wet tracks for best quality, since there is no d/a-a/d conversion. Set the direct out on the kemper for left channel and wet output for right, then set the inputs on your daw as s/pdif input L and R. You can't record stereo wet tracks this way unfortunately though, but you can later reamp the di as stereo if you want.

I believe the mix control hardware is for direct analog monitoring, so changing the levels there won't affect the levels that you record, only what you hear during tracking. At least that's how it is on my MR816 mix software.

The line inputs are meant to be used with external hardware like mic preamps that have their own gain controls.

I think the mix control can set the line inputs to high or low gain if it is like for my focusrite Saffire Pro. That can be beneficial. Use that to set a suitable recording level.

If I were you, I'd definitely forget the whole stereo guitar tracks. That's a great way to record a single acoustic, but electrical guitar not so much (speaking generally here).

I have set my SPDIF to send out the clean unaffected DI track for later reamping ("git") and the other channel (right channel, I think) to tap the signal after the "mod" post-amp, before the kemper delays and reverbs ("mod", I think?). I don't want to record delays and reverbs, I'll add those in the daw when I have the other tracks - much better workflow IMHO.

I then use the mix control to mute the left side of the SPDIF (the clean guitar), and pan the right side ("amped" signal) to the center, so I hear the amped guitar track in the center.

For reverb and delays to be included, you select "master stereo", I think. This does not allow simultaneous recording of the DI track. But I stand by my advice to apply these effects (delay and reverb) AFTER recording them, to get a cohesive sound of the song as a whole, and make sure the reverb does not take up too much real estate in the mix (you can't dial it down - and since you have no DI track with this method, you can't even reamp the track - you have to re-record it (i.e. play it again).

I set it to git+mod mono. This will also reveal phasing issues from stereo modulation effects. But I think when doing actual recordings I would prefer to turn off any modulation effects and add those in the DAW as well. I would be just as happy with the git+stack setting, unless there was an effect I really needed from the Kemper. I also have the choice of reamping later this way (with two separate mono tracks, one the direct, one with the amp stack).

Read the REFERENCE manual p. 12 and onwards (not the basic manual/wuick start guide).

Logic doesn't pull the names from the mixcontrol, I think - I think they are just numbered sequentially. Try each one successively to find out which is which.

When recording, you then arm TWO tracks, one set to the left side of the signal, and one set to the right side of the signal (both the spdif inputs).

To set the kemper to the master go to the mix control, set the sample rate to 44.1 khz, then set the sync source to "spdif". Then it should show locked (if everything works as it should). This tells you that everything is connected. Play something, and you should see the SPDIF-corresponding meters reacting and hear the sound in your headphones. If you set the SPDIF output on the kemper to e.g. git+mono mod, then one spdif channel shows the DI signal and the other shows the affected signal (amped). Above the meters should be a pan slider. I set these to center. I then mute the DI signal (that's not what I want in my headphones). THere's a mute button under each meter/fader. This mutes the MONITORING (i.e., not the signal going into the daw).

You may also want to click the button with two circles underneath, if the channel is set to stereo (otherwise you can't pan individually).

...Also, spend some time reading the manuals for both the Kemper and the scarlet....