PZM Microphone and Profiling

I have to agree , I don't care with the amp in the room tone while using these PZM rigs, they just act as another miking technique, and a very interesting approach.

We only got a few rigs ATM but they have been some of the coolest tone I could get from my KPA. A very good alternative to expensive mike and high end techniques, this is a very cool way to capture profiles.

The RAW sound you get from the stock profiles is pretty linear to me , but an incredible capture of the amp stack. I'm really impressed they are VERY tweakable !

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I have to agree , I don't care with the amp in the room tone while using these PZM rigs, they just act as another miking technique, and a very interesting approach.

We only got a few rigs ATM but they have been some of the coolest tone I could get from my KPA. A very good alternative to expensive mike and high end techniques, this is a very cool way to capture profiles.

Exactly.

+1

Getting usable Rigs with ANY kind of cheap mics and simple mic placement is GREAT news

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I may have caused a misunderstanding of the term, "amp in the room", so I should clarify this term, from my perspective. When I did the first profile with my PZM, 65 Princeton Clean, and I referred to the profile as the "amp in the room", I did not mean to infer that the PZM right against the grill, would pickup the room sound.

I find these experiments really interesting, and will try to find this kind of mic for my own profiles

But you should realize that the "amp in the room" effect has nothing to do with picking the room sound!

The comments above certainly reflect my experience. The profiles I made yesterday are a LOT closer to what I hear coming from my amp than any of my previous efforts. Using a 57 or R144 (either by themselves or together, in various positions) coloured the sound in a way which was not pleasant to my tastes.

My goal is to create profiles of my amp/s which sound as close as possible to the sound coming out of them, then tweak these for live use there and then. The cool thing is I now have a wireless system, and we use a Behringer X32 desk with wireless functionality, I can stand out the front with my guitar and Android tab and tweak the sound there and then. That's flippin cool in my books!

I'm also as new to the concept of "in the room" as I am to profiling, I heard of the term only once I started looking at a KPA. "In the room" is not a goal of mine (as above) so this technique of a PZM up close and personal to the amp is what works for me. It's also extremely simple, tbh I didn't even bother moving the amp out of the room this time!

YMMV etc.

Big props to thebrushwithin, you sir have saved me a lot of time and money achieving my goals Also to my Dad for being a hoarder and having a couple of these mics stashed away!

I just tried the princeton profiles and wow! Extremely impressive and full sounding.. 'open' for lack of a better word. I have 4 studio monitors along with a large sub and this profile sounds incredibly like having the amp in the room.

Uploaded another profile, this time a clean one.

PRS HXDA Clean PZM

Also renamed the others PRS HXDA Lead PZM and PRS HXDA Rhythm PZM.

Recommend tweaking the clean profile with some other cabinets

Excellent! I'll try these tomorrow:-)

Had a play with the Princeton profiles today - very very nice! Thanks for sharing and for the heads-up about the PZMs.

Cheers,
Sam

Too bad I can't download profiles ATM

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Too bad I can't download profiles ATM

Hey man just for you I recorded a quick demo of the 3 HXDA tones, here you go:

https://soundcloud.com/justmund/kpa-hxda-demo

Tried to capture the touch sensitive nature of the HXDA and the subsequent profile (in the middle section, obviously not once I go the the lead tone...)

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https://soundcloud.com/justmund/kpa-hxda-demo

Tried to capture the touch sensitive nature of the HXDA and the subsequent profile (in the middle section, obviously not once I go the the lead tone...)

Hey this sounds really good! Thank you!

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Hey man just for you I recorded a quick demo of the 3 HXDA tones, here you go:

https://soundcloud.com/justmund/kpa-hxda-demo

Thanks a lot, really appreciate it! Not sure I can appreciate the mic's contribution, but very musical nevertheless

Another demo for you Gianfranco, this one is made with the PRS rigs

https://soundcloud.com/waraba/riding-the-hawkwind

Thanks dude!

Sounds good dirty, too!
I like the song idea as well!

Yep

Thx Ingolf & Gianfranco I really dig the dirtiness of the amps , it's not so common amongst other profiles - I could survive in a guitar world with just my strat , the PRS rigs , vibrochamp 66 and my own JTM 3, if only I could put those 3 in a little pedal unit ...

I really dig these PZM rigs, I got a realistic PZM on it's way to my home to make some crazy experiments with my old amps hehehe

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I really dig these PZM rigs, I got a realistic PZM on it's way to my home to make some crazy experiments with my old amps hehehe

I'm still looking out for one in Europe. Don't want to pay crazy high shipment prices from the U.S.

Mine arrived on Tuesday. I haven't had chance to have a play with it yet, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what it can do!

Cheers,
Sam

I got mine 2nd hand for 45€ ( realistic with XLR - box & docs - postage included ) on a french ad site ( leboncoin.fr ) . If you can't find one in europe , let me know Ingolf , I can search for you