levelling rig volumes with reference rigs

I level rig volumes by ear, not by using a meter. I think it is difficult to use a meter to do it, because of the differences in touch sensitivity from Rig to Rig. They don’t have to be perfectly volume matched. As long as they are close, it’s good. The drastic volume changes are the ones to avoid.

I level rig volumes by ear, not by using a meter. I think it is difficult to use a meter to do it, because of the differences in touch sensitivity from Rig to Rig. They don’t have to be perfectly volume matched. As long as they are close, it’s good. The drastic volume changes are the ones to avoid.

I think I probably use a different approach for solo volume-I use my guitar volume knob. I’m sure someone else will have suggestions for changing the actual volume of the rigs.

As long as you‘re satisfied with what you hear there‘s no need for changing effect parameters in order to match volumes between rigs. Use rig volume for this.
For getting solo volumes there are several ways but I would prefer these two: put a pure boost post stack with e.g. +3 dB or double the rig with higher rig volume.

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I level rig volumes by ear, not by using a meter. I think it is difficult to use a meter to do it, because of the differences in touch sensitivity from Rig to Rig. They don’t have to be perfectly volume matched. As long as they are close, it’s good. The drastic volume changes are the ones to avoid.

This is what I do now. A meter can easily show a high level because of low frequency content you are not hearing. Get your for engineer, or someone you can rely on in the crowd to give you some pointers too.

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boost post stack

OK! That's a good starting point!

I first increased the amp volume, but I think your option is better. But can you explain a boost post stack? I can't find out what this is.

I used the old kpa chrunch rig as a volume reference for my basic rhytm an clean sounds. This is the rig that the kpa has in every empty performance in slot 1.

If i create a solo rig I use different methods to set them higher than the setted rhytm sound.

First is: when i use an eq in stomp X I dont need a booster. I set the eq volume up to 2-3 dB.

When i didnt use an eq, I set the amp volume 2-3 dB higher in the smp section.

If i like to use the booster, I set it in stomp X behind the amp and set it up to + 2-3 dB. Behind the amp this is only a volume boost. If you set the booster in front of the amp ( stomp A,B,C or D), the booster will affect your gain and the volume.

A smart way to boost the volume is also by using the morph pedal. Toe position setted to rhytm volume, heel position + 2-3 dB. This saves a stomp slot.

Things in between I do like Paul recommend. I use my guitar volume knob.

Many ways to Rome.....

All these things are written in the manual and I dont want to offend, but these things are basics.

About volume loss when using fx:

Imho sometimes I have the feel the a setted chorus in slot mod ( or in other slots) brings a little volume loss. No problem, because the fx have also a volume parameter. When I have that feeling, I set the volumeparameter of the fx a littler higher (0,4 to 0,8 ).

Back to what I send to the mixing desk:

I take my loud solosound and I check out the sensity of the desk so that nothing clips when playing. This is the part which you have to control with the mixing desk input.

Start at a low point of the output parameter when you send a signal to the mixer. If the signal is too hot and your mixer is setted to high you will damage your cabs! I thing it too long to describe here how to set up the he mixing desk with the kpa, hope you have someone on site who is able to set up the mixer right.

My kpa main outs to the mixing desk are at -18,5 dB and I use the -12 dB function in the output section.
Set the mixer level ( left/ right channel if you play stereo) to 0 dB and the the input gain to zero. Than play and increase the gain level of the mixer channel. I thing you have a led which gives a warning when the input gainlevel is too high. Increase gain up to a level where the led comes up. Than lower the gain level a little bit so that the input gain has no overflow.
Be careful when sending a too hot signal to the desk and everything is connected to your cabs! Start at a low level.

Hth

Cheers
Frank

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But can you explain a boost post stack? I can't find out what this is

You can't find out because it seems that your first step in finding a solution is to ask somebody. In my opinion it's best to sit in front of your Kemper and explore, try, explore, try and so on. Let me give you an example: Above I was talking about a pure boost (not only a boost, but a pure boost). If you would have scrolled through the effect types you would have found the pure boost already. Nobody here can do this for you. Nobody can read the manual for you.
Like Frank already said: This is all very basic. Even more basic is to know how to find out something about something. In case of the pure boost the first thing that would have come to my mind is to open the manual and search for the word "boost". Thinking is basic too.

Sorry if I'm too hard but the best advice is: think, search, explore, try. If you're not willing to do this, a complex device like the Kemper maybe isn't for you. Let me end by saying that my opinion is not based on this thread alone as I've read a few similar threads by you and they all share the same problem.

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post stack

The post-stack FX slots are X, MOD, DELAY, REVERB.