Behringer B612d or B615d

    Hey folks


    I'm new to this forum. I am using my KPA for a week now via some good Shure headphones and had no chance to play through a better setup as I was only ever playing through a 50 watts 2x12 combo amp with no access to a PA system. I am looking for some powered, neutral speakers to play through with the kpa cab simulation enabled.


    I have no clue about PA type speakers - could you give me some help through opinions, reading materials, links, etc. on what to look out for when choosing a decent FRFR (?) speaker for the kpa ? Any sort of specs I should look out for or be aware of ? To give you an idea it should be as sufficient as a 50 watt 2x12 combo amp for clubs and pub style venues.


    Does anybody have experiences with Behringer speakers, for example Behringer B612d and B615d ?
    They seem inexpensive and can be used as wedge monitor and mounted on stands, which seems quite nice. Also,the ability to have a 2nd input for mic's is great. Daisy chaining for stereo use sounds fantastics and very flexible for a band practicing room or from simple partying to DJ'ing.


    http://www.behringer.com/DE/Products/B612D.aspx



    Cheers,
    Martin

    I dont know the behringer, but i searched for something to replace my 4x12 er. I compared a lot and wanted to by the qsc k12 but then a tried the yamaha dsr 112. i bought them. The sound is near my tube amp with a 4x12. The sound is round and very full at all levels. If possible, try the dsr 112. the sound is very natural.

    I've used the Behringer Truth 2031A's for several years since I started toying with modelers. I have no intentions of replacing them, unless it's with more Behringers. To me, they are a viable and very affordable option. Admittedly, I haven't played through anything else though.
    I wonder though, how much an improvement a brand like Atomic would be over the 2031A's. They say if you've only ever driven a Sedan all of your life, you would think it was the greatest car ever; until you drove a Cadillac.

    "Heavy Metal does have a message for the rest of the world: Fuck You!" -Sebastian Bach

    The Behringers Truth 2031A's are Near Field studio monitors and at close range will outperform the Atomic amps hands down. The Atomic amps aren't actually FRFR in the same sense as studio monitors.The biggest issue with most studio monitors is their construction. They aaren't road friendly and will get beat up pretty bad hauling them around. Most, including the 2031A, have no grill so the speaker is very vulnerable.


    I own a pair of 2031A's and they are actually pretty good for use with modellers. The top end is smooth and detail is better than most of the powered PA speakers I've used....but they won't reach the stage volume of a 1000 watt active speaker nor will it have the headroom at high volume. I use IEMs and keep the volume down so they would work fine for me. I have a 500 watt stereo keyboard amp that is FRFR so I'm set already.


    bd

    Thanks for all your recommendations, but not all options are easily available where I am. Mackie and RCF i.e. where not as available.


    I went to a local store and rented the QSC K12 for a week, but decided on a Yamaha DXR12 later on. After playing through it for a few days it is obvious that the DXR12 sounds more neutral at least at lower to medium volumes. I have not had a chance to put it through its paces - meaning at stage volume levels, but I did not have to lower the bass frequencies on the KPA Monitor EQ as with the K12 to make it sound comparing it to my reference headphones (Beyerdynamic T90). Additionally, the speaker sounds simply better, i.e. the mid and high frequencies sound smoother and the bass / mid response is more precise - all while playing through the KPA.


    Finally, when connecting a normal music source through the RCA input channel the Yamaha speaker also sounded better and more neutral than the QSC K12 :thumbup: .


    Of course all this is according to my ears .... I am a bit surprised about this outcome as the QSC K12 is more expensive.


    Did I get a bad QSC K12 rental speaker maybe ?
    Has anybody else compared the QSC K12 with the Yamaha DXR12 ?
    What are your experiences with the DXR 12 ?



    I really love my KPA sound through the DXR12 and the fact that I now have a universal speaker that can be used for so many occasions (stage monitor, band rehearsal with mixing in a microphone or simply for parties :thumbup: ) - so much better than any 4x12".



    Cheers,
    Martin