Metallica's tone on KPA

VanHalen · Mar 30th 2013

Hi,

I've just converted Bruno Saint Gelais impulse responses mono wav files to kipr files with CabMaker 1.0.1.
These files correspond to the cab part only.

Using Marshall amps (for Kill'em all and Ride the Lightning songs) or Mesa Boogie amps (for the other songs), do you have interesting tonematches ?

steeldragon72 · Mar 31st 2013

I don't know if you know about the guy from Silent Underground Studios. He did a nice job of tone-matching Slayer, Metallica, Lamb of God, etc. Look here:
http://www.silentundergroundstudio.com/clone-tones

VanHalen · Mar 31st 2013

Yes I know but I think Bruno Saint Gelais achieves something much better with his impulse responses.

tylerhb · Mar 31st 2013

The problem is that the cab maker will change the eq curve quite a bit. So the results might be off, even if the original IRs are spot on.

I also did some Metallica tonematches some time ago. Check those out if these work for you. Highly depends on your guitar.

VanHalen · Mar 31st 2013

Quote

The problem is that the cab maker will change the eq curve quite a bit.
So the results might be off, even if the original IRs are spot on

Why this happens ? What's the problem with Cab Maker ? I hope the Kemper team will fix this or else it doesn't worth using it and the Kemper team should add to the KPA a real IR files reader instead.

Quote

I also did some Metallica tonematches some time ago. Check those out if these work for you.

Where can I find them ? Thanks.

Quote

Highly depends on your guitar.

Pickups (active ones) ? Wood (mahogany) ? Set neck ?

tylerhb · Mar 31st 2013

Quote from VanHalen

Where can I find them ? Thanks.

Pickups (active ones) ? Wood (mahogany) ? Set neck ?

Just search for "ozone" on the rig exchange. There should be tonematches for seek n destroy, battery, creeping death and some black album stuff.

Every guitar has a very unique eq curve and dynamics due to all kinds of factors. Even the playing style will have an impact on the accuracy of a tone match. After all, i stopped doing tonematches cause i enjoy normal profiles a lot more. Those tonematches might be cool for a cover band, but for my stuff i don´t like those.

VanHalen · Mar 31st 2013

Quote

There should be tonematches for seek n destroy, battery, creeping death and some black album stuff.

I'm very interested in the way you did these tonematches and specialy for the Black album. Can you explain how you made the chain you profiled and the guitar you used ?

tylerhb · Mar 31st 2013

The guitar used was a custom made by Florian Lüttke from Unicut guitars.Pickups were Häussel Tozz XL.

For the method check these threads:

classic metal tones done with EQ matching
Profiling with EQ matching plugins

djemass · Apr 2nd 2013

The disposable hero one is amazing. Coupled to a mesa preamp profile, i can get these Petrucci rhythm tone, articulate, organic... A must have

Other profiles are also amazing

VanHalen · Apr 3rd 2013

Hi djemass,

Could you post some mp3 to hear your tonematches ?

Thanks.

tylerhb · Apr 3rd 2013

Quote from djemass

The disposable hero one is amazing. Coupled to a mesa preamp profile, i can get these Petrucci rhythm tone, articulate, organic... A must have

Other profiles are also amazing

Disposable Hero? Which one is it?

djemass · Apr 3rd 2013

Hi

I took the converted impulse of Bruno St Gelais called Disposable Hero (it is in the pack given by Van Halen). Coupled to a Studio Mesa Preamp Profile I had, sounds awesome.

DarthV · Apr 3rd 2013

I use Silent Underground's clones. They will sound thin because they are designed to be used in the mix. For a living room guitar hero, I throw in a tube screamer and EQ to fatten them up. Absolutely love his MoP clone with those additions, I use it well over 50% of the time.

djemass · Apr 3rd 2013

clip will follow soon

Share