The problem I've had with my stage is a problem any pedalboard can have. It is as reliable as the other kemper models. Choosing between stage or another model is a matter of what you need and the use you are going to give it
Okay i get it, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the arrival of my first kemper.
....the Stage is as stable as any other Kemper...what are those rumors?
I might overreact to some outdated threads i googled, such as:
Kemper Stage reliability issues.Go back to the toaster or give up? | The Gear Page
But its 2023 now, anyway my kemper stage is on the way, thank you keller!
There were some issues with the stage very early on and even then those I think could be classed as teething rather than wholesale reliability.
As far as I'm aware, these are all resolved and the Stage is as reliable as the toaster and Rack - which in my experience is extremely reliable.
Therefore I would not include reliability as part of the consideration between the 2.
Hey V8
Thanks for your opinion, i've bought the stage.
Although I’m not a fan of the all in one pedal board form factor at all, it is hard to argue with the features and price compared to the other options. I think you did the right thing.
Thanks, i hope so. It has cheaper price compare to toaster+remote, higher cost performance to me.
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Thank you ST, you've been helping all the time! 
ST already mentioned it, the stage has 2 sends an returns. I have an unpowered Toaster, and as i like to connect two speakers for stereo, i need to use the send for it, which i would love to have to insert my looper. Unfortunately that´s only possible with the stage.
I've already bought stage, arrives tommorrow.
of course, yes, it's a stage
Do you think is a proper time to buy stage? or wait till the product is stable? i'm trying to get a kemper stuggling between toaster and stage.
Could i ask if your kemper is stage?
Hey Mike,
About the startup time - check out this thread.
Thank you ST, i've checked it.
Display MoreHi, Mike.
I love the unpowered head (Toaster).
- The aesthetic, the vibe, the convenience of using the knobs, and easy to read display, but note: I have it at eye level while standing (because I play standing most of the time.
- The Remote is an essential part of the system - even just for playing at home.
- When making adjustments to your sound, you can do everything from the front panel.
I like the Stage,
- I use it for small gigs where portability is essential.
- It lives in a gig bag most of the time. I pull it out for updates and to sync it up with the Toaster and rehearse stagecraft. I don't play it much at home.
- Yes, the Stage is a little faster for Startup, but not so much that it matters to me.
- I dislike having to bend down to read the display and operate the buttons - but this is only an issue when making adjustments and creating Performances. You can use Rig Manager for most of that, but I don't take my computer to gigs. And a lot of the time, even at home, I just don't want to use a computer when I'm playing guitar.
- How many places do you want to look when adjusting your sound? (Floor, computer monitor).
- It has more flexibility for external stereo effects (nothing I use)
If I could have only one, for playing at home, I'd keep the Toaster.
I also have a powered rack unit. That's another story.
Glad you joined us.
Wow thanks for your detailed comment, what you mentioned is also I'm thinking about..the pro of toaster is keeping me struggling between those two.
The stage is new, i don't know, it might be improved in some way from the old toaster, like built in wifi module, but its not a key fator to me. I care more about stability, also the stage is new, I don't want to deal with bugs or glitches, the toaster seems fine after all its been on sale for so long.
Again thanks for you sharing experience.
1-yes
2-no (never been)
3-no difference using RM
Thank you sir! helps a lot, i will just go with stage then.
Hey guys, i'm trying to get kemper but struggling which one is right for me, pretty much i'll just be playing at home.
A few questions:
1) Is stage faster than toaster? (Startup speed, Menu switching, etc)
2) Is stage still buggy now or have some reliability issues?
3) I'm aware of toaster has better UI than stage (easy to tweak on the panel), is that a problem if i'm using Rig Manager?
Need suggestions, Thanks!
