Without a doubt the Kemper. No contest. I never thought the Axe sounded all that great to begin with. Even the Scuffham plugins sound way better imo. The AxeFX does higain pretty well though, but the Kemper still beats it in that department as well imo.
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I got a VG99 awhile back just to see how it was. Hated it and sold it right away. All the "modeling" felt like an effect and sounded like a "mp3" is the best I can describe it as.
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Exactly, and the rumors of the KPA forgetting certain programmed midi functions - I am sorry for my unclear choice of words!A quick comment about posting on different boards: When I am here, I don't go raving about my AFX, and when I'm posting at Fractal I don't rave about the Kemper - this just seems appropriate to me, but I still try to be honest about it all. I am getting some *excellent* sounds from my KPA Amp profiles - basic sound is no longer an issue for me. It is the instabilities and question marks that keep me from entertaining the thought of taking it on the road for an extended tour. I honestly thought by now these issues would be in the past, but I realize Kemper is a small company and I really want to see them succeed. It does baffle me that the Amp/Profiling part can be so great, yet the supporting OS seems so far behind.... In the end, I believe Mr. Kemper is a brilliant man and so is his 'invention', but it looks like the OS has a lot of catching up to do and I hope it is sooner than later.
PS: Let's hear it again for Andy and his beautiful profiles - I say Kemper needs him!!!
You wouldn't know the AxeFX's OS is so far ahead. It changes so often I don't see how one could rely on it. I was just at the Fractal forums the other day and read numerous pos†s about version 6 changing the sound of people's presets (sizzle and fizzle), and that seems to have happened with a lot of their updates. That's one thing I couldn't deal with. With the Kemper the sound is "already" there and there's no need to chase the dragon. I see the Kemper as an "amp" first and foremost, and anything else is just gravy. If you wan† a digital effects box, then get the Axe.
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I don't think is a question of fairness, Hadley is a pro and he's big enough to decide what he wants to use on Tour. Even Larry Carlton goes on Tour with his Bludotone and the Dumble stays in studio. There are a lot of things to be taken in consideration when making a Tournee, not last that the artistic director and the producer are also part of those decisions. They are just tools, I see nothing negative for us or for the Kemper if Hadley decides to go on Tour with the Axe. Andy Innes has decided for the Kemper...so what? Does it make it better sounding? Or Hadley worse? IMHO, not....
Or to do with your endorsements.
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OK - I must ask the obvious question: What is so different about the Kemper software code that prevents it from being as robust as many other modeling units that sell for a small fraction of it's price? (Boss, Digitech, Line6, Fender, Zoom, etc) Pray tell...
The difference is this is a brand new product with some growing pains.
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I'd rather Kemper concentrate on the amp side. You will never get the best effects integrated into a one in all device. If you want the best, get a Eventide H8000 and put it in your's KPA's loop.
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Let me barge in and interject..... Please allow clock slaving with SPDIF.
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I think the bottom line for the KPA is that most users feel it does it's primary function (amp profiling) very well, but it is still not a complete, comprehensive package for doing serious recording or live gigs that demand quiet performance and simultaneous in-depth effects. For $1,800 plus shipping, does this seem too much to ask?
Do real amps have "in depth effects" onboard? They can cost up to twice as much and might only have reverb. I think $1800 is a fair price for what you get, and is way more successful imo in representing real tube amp tone over the $2600 AxeFXII.
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We''ve all been there as the support can get a little cultish. And the 120% realer reviews are coming out already. But in all honesty people on this forum have been accused of both of those too. I am just glad and hope that we keep that kind of childishness to a minimum.
And when 6.01 comes out it will be 140 percent even more realer.
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Here in the US typically the retailer will warranty for a month or so and then the manufacturer is responsible for the warranty.
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I don't really see your problem.
First of all, I clearly explained what these things do, according to Christoph's answer, which is obviously the truth and the word. There's no black magic or anything behind these things. Clean Sense = input level, Dist Sense = overall gain control for distorted profiles
Secondarily, why don't you just try for yourself and see which settings you like? There's no correct setting for Dist Sense for example, because it's up to taste. You can play a little around with Clean Sense, too, because different input levels drive the profiles differently.But let me just answer:
1. Yes, it's another stage of gain for distorted profiles
2. In a way, yes, for example if you use very low output pickups, you can get back the distortion/gain you are missing out on by increasing the value
3. It's up to taste, but I'd personally use stomps and the profiles' gain control for this, as the distorted sense is more like an overall bump of gain. If you use higher gain on every distorted profile, then yes, you can increase it and leave it there.As for me, I didn't permanently tweak Dist Sense, and I'm using both an Ibanez UV777 with an Evo 7 in the bridge (kinda high output) and a Squier Affinity Telecaster (with the neck pickup being around 60-100 milivolts I think, low output). I just don't feel like any gain would be missing overall, and of course, I want a different tone from these two instruments. I've set up my Clean Sens to around 5-6 for the UV777 and around 7 for my Tele. This way I usually get the green light while it is sometimes spiking a little into amber or reddish. That's it.
From what I have read and experienced if you are going into red on the input light you are getting true digital clipping rather than pushing into the amp harder.
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I consider Distortion sense to be sort of a boost. With hot pickups you have to back off on in the Clean sense since going into digital, instead of a real analog amp which can †ake the beating on the front end without clipping. So after you back off the input you can adjust the gain post input and push into the amp harder as you would with a hot pickup into a real amp. That's how I see it at least.
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Is †he Kemper the master? The spdif can't be slave unfortunately bu† hopefully they change that.
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+1000 I have high dollar converters/clock setup and it doesn't make sense to clock everything to the Kemper, so the digital i/o on the Kemper is just taking up space right now.
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My two biggest beefs:
No editor/librarian
You can't clock the spdif i/o as a slave.Other than that it's awesome. The effects (comp, boost/dirt mostly) I want to use in it are good enough and I have a Eventide H8000 for everything else.
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Nice production! Wha† drums are you using? I like the kick
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bad movement? As in bowel? wow that must have been something fierce to throw your back out like that!
Seriously though, thanks for your cabs. They are great. And get some rest for your back!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6peJaQqjtc
As I'll be doing a few demos with my friend Ola Englund in Guitar Candy (Belgium) on the 14th and 15th, it was time to give some of my old backing tracks a much needed overhaul. Since the first video of Atonement was lacking in a few departments, I just thought it was worth recording the rest of it and giving my black limba fanned fret 8 some well deserved camera time in the process.
All tracks are done with the Kemper Profiling Amp AKA the Cosmic Lunchbox, using a SND Redemptionist distortion for the melody lines. Patches used for the rhythm tracks are a modified version of Ola's Triple 6 profile into a profile of my own Zilla 2x12", and another of the AMT Electronics D2 into the same cab profile. Melodies are done with the Redemptionist driving a Vox AC30 profile and the lead line was done with a profile of my own Silverblade Hellhound 20 into the Zilla again.
Hope you guys enjoy the video and happy Easter!
Sounds cool! Nice guitars. Only thing that bothers me is those anemic drums (sounds like Toontrack?). Turn em up and the whole mix will have more punch and power..
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You are demonstrating my point.
First of all, my feelings are not hurt. The fact that you feel the need to belittle others to prop up yourself and your view makes your position that much weaker. I suspect that your need to do this comes more from your own sensitivity and insecurity.
Second, I don't see why I can't come here to learn about something I may want to buy. As funny as it may seem to you, I have owned equipment from a number of different manufacturers and not once did I feel the need to view them as "competing" with each other. Frankly that's just juvenile. I never looked at a Fender and thought it was any less "better", or competing with a Marshall or Mesa, or whatever. The right tool for the job, is all this stuff is about, the way I see it.
To call an Axe-FX "AssFX" says more about you than the Axe-FX. Which brings me back to my original point.
Enjoy "winning" your battles!
Peace out...
dude, I am not belittling anyone. If you get a corncob up your ass just because I jokingly call it AssFX and then come all the way over to the Kemper forum to lambast people for saying they gave up the waiting list slot since they liked the Kemper better then you are the one with the problem and confirmation bias insecurity.
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LOL... Everybody feel better now after the beatings?
I'm still baffled as to why people feel the need to insult the "opposition" AFTER they have made a choice to buy something. Is it confirmation bias at work?
"AssFx"..? Really? How old are you?
Full disclosure, I bought an Axe-FX II for $2200. Is it perfect? No. I also thought about buying a Kemper. Is it perfect? No. In fact I worked with someone at a studio here in LA and we both thought that both the AXE and the Kemper were excellent, but recorded the final tracks with real amplifiers.
If I do buy a Kemper that last thing I'll do is post ANYTHING that doesn't totally flatter it, as witnessed by what happens here, even if you are a working professional with decades of experience and are even only slightly critical of it. I thought the Fractal forum was a bit much, but as we all know, the Kemper, and this forum beats Fractal.
Thanks, I feel better too.
I may still buy a Kemper. Or I may sell my Fractal, and forget the Kemper too, and start buying real amps again.
Ok, I'm ready, let the beatings continue.
Sorry to hurt your feelings there bro. Being the sensitive type maybe you shouldn't come to a forum of a competing product and expect to hear nice comments. And yeah cool. Maybe get some real amps. Us Kemper users have those too.
