Are you guys saying the editor won't be available for Mac?
Posts by BulldogXTRM
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Merged profiles should sound the same as their studio profiles if no settings were changed during the profiling. So if you purchase the merged profiles, that should be the mic'ed Studio Profile sound when the cab section is turned on.
You can then turn the cab off in the monitor output and send that to a regular guitar cab if you chose.
Creating merged profiles allows the Kemper to take the guesswork out of what is the sound of the amp and what is the sound of the cab that was used to profile. Hope that helps out.
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I've had no issues with the Stage since 7.10, now on 7.11 beta and still no issues.
I hope that the editor will come soon, because then hopefully the big bugs of the stage will be fixed!
Sooon! ?
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This looks like a good argument for the Kemper Stage then, no need to connect the remote. I previously used a behringer midi board with my toaster I had, it worked flawlessly.
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Been there done that. I honestly wish everyone would post merged profiles only.
But that's not the point with my post. I appreciate your input anyway.
If you have a suitable DI (like the Kemper DI), you could create a Merged profile that would allow you to perfectly separate the cab from the amp itself. Works great
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No one thing people in the forums don't realize is the majority of people come here to post problems or seek help. The forum is not indicative of reliability. Even the new stage is very reliable considering it's brand new. If 5 people are having problems with the Stage, then 50 are in the public and not having problems.
Well, I wrote this just after reading this post about a connection breaking in the kemper and causing radio interference. Or this one about the 'bank up' footswitch no longer working. The many reports on this forum of broken leds and switches (I also had to return my first Stage) all point to problems with quality control. I obviously hope that there are many more Stage users that never visit the forum because their unit is perfect (hardware wise) but I have no way to know this for sure.
I totally agree that the head and rack have proven themselves to quality pieces of gear but the Stage... not so much.
So yes, I am a bit worried, and I don't think it's without reason. But I'm going to be brave!
Thank you everyone!!
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This is why I couldn't be a Helix/Axe guy. Owned a Pod HD 500, and I got some good sounds, but I had to tweak the hell out things to sound great.
Kemper doesn't have this problem, it sounds like the profiled amp, simple as that. Want to play a Dumble, a Soldano, a Mesa, a Bogner, a Friedman? Download a profile and you're playing a great sounding profile with little to no tweaks.Welcome to the Kemper Train.
Unlike the Axe-Fx units I've owned in the past which I think I spent 90% of my time tweaking and 10% playing, I feel like I'm satisfied with the Stage much more quickly and am playing guitar more! Looking forward to learning and contributing to this group of fine musicians and gear enthusiasts!
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My last couple of shows, have been flawless with the Stage. I've used a powered PA speaker behind me for a "monitor/feedback". I've owned a Kemper since they were released and can say that it has been the most consistent piece of gear I've owned.
I'm serious! Please send me some positive thoughts in the next 20 days, fellow Kemperites.
I feel like I might need them with all the QC issues that keep popping up.
I've actually converted from home-studio KPA user to live KPA user after the previous tour in China. While it was a great experience, it was disapointing that not one venue took the backline requirements seriously. I hadn't played such bad amps since I was 15 and just starting out.
So I immediately thought about bringing the KPA this year. I've worked all year on the patches and my pedalboard and tube amp have not left the garage for many months now.
The unexpected release of the Stage made me even happier. Now I could leave my pelicase with toaster and remote at home and actually take one suitcase with my personal stuff and gig stuff.
It will be 2 weeks of 1 or 2 shows a day so just carrying around one suitcase and guitar is such an improvement.
But if the KPA stops working mid tour I will be f*cked, I will have to revert to the worst amps with zero pedals.
I've already received a replacement that has worked for +10 shows and I think I'll stay on 7.08 because I've done gigs on that update without problems.
Thanks to the community for all the help! I will keep you posted.
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Thank you for sharing! My guess about profiling with reference Mics is that most people don’t do it, because they want to create a profile that would easily fit in a mix. Traditional guitar microphone technique and placement is designed to do that.
Yeah, I get that but I've been reading so many posts where people are whining about the Kemper not capturing the amp in the room sound that guitar players are used to so I was thinking this would be the way to accomplish that.
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Today I've been making some in house IR's with my own cabs and a couple of borrowed cabs and I noticed that some of these IR's had some high frequency fizz when using them with a few merged profiles that I also did today. So I decided to start experimenting. One thing is that I've never used Pure Cabinet on my Kemper I always turn it off in the output section and make sure that it's off in my rigs as well.
After dealing with the fizziness awhile, and starting to get agitated, I decided to give Pure Cabinet a try. Well what do you know for me a setting around 3.5 was just great. The fizziness died down to more of what I heard through the live cabs. Well the I got curious and decided to use the looper on my Kemper Stage and record an input loop to play back and capture with and without Pure Cabinet turned on. The graph below shows an EQ match analysis using Ozone. So in case anyone was wondering, it smooths out the fizziness of your sound, effectively cleaning up your tone to be more of what you'd hear not only in the room, but also on lower setting just cleaning up fizziness from your input mic.
So it sounded better no matter what IR/CAB I used with Pure Cabinet on, and ever IR that I tested today, had the same issues whether they were the IR's I made or some of the commercial ones that I own. They all have a level of fizziness to them that I don't normally equate to hearing in the room. Then I started reading about not only the issues with the mic captures, but also the phase issues when making or mixing IR's.
Anyway this is the JUNK noise that Pure Cabinet gets rid of. Not musical and not natural at all. I'm leaving it turned on from now on unless there's a reason to turn it off.
Okay class dismissed,
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2 More IR's I just finished up. 1 is a mix of the borrowed HESU V212 Demon and My UBERKAB only. The 2nd is a the HESU and my bandmates Friedman BE100 cab. Both of these are a bit more refined than the previous IR's.
They're not quite as boomy, a bit more warmth but still clear and some sparkle up top. Let me know if you use them and like them...
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Dang, not a single darn person want to talk about this???
Well I don't know how many of you use your own IR's so here's a couple I created. Import them to Rig Manager and you can drag and drop them to your profiler.
This is actually an IR of 3 cabs. A HESU V212 Demon loaded and mic with a 421, a Bogner UberKab with a R121 on the V30, and a Friedman BE100 cab with a SM57 on the G12M. I have 5 IR's that were mixed to get the sound in the room, my favorite mix, a slight mid boost, and 2 levels of high cut from the mid boost settings.
The IR's are thick, have some major thump, buttery mids, and screaming highs. If I were to explain it in as and EQ the overall sound signature is like a "W" EQ. These are primarly for high gain, but work well with crunch and cleans too.
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So, I'll chime in... They just released 2.3.14 today so I give it at least 2 weeks before 3.0/Editor is released. There's a reason they're not releasing this yet, I think it has to do with the couple of bugs in the Stage that they're having trouble with. I know I submitted a bug that apparently got fixed in 2.3.13/7.10 beta update.
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I'm sure there is a reason why and maybe someone can enlighten me... I'm just wondering if a lot of people are looking for the amp in the room tone... then why aren't more people profiling with reference mic's? I mean if you profile with a mic that is FR like a reference mic then you'd get the cab in the room sound. The same thing with these guys that are making cab IR's, why not use a reference mic and capture the sine sweep and generate the IR from that?
Am I missing something here? Has this already been tried and didn't work?
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One way to achieve this would be if you knew what cabs/mics will be provided for the backline. You could then load an IR that matches - preshow. Then tweak your sound using the IR and a DI profile. Then when you get to the show, just turn off the IR and voila! That should match very closely and you could then minimally tweak the profiles during sound check to fit the room.
Bottom line I think is that if you're not providing your own cabs/mics/pa/FRFR your at the mercy of the venue. I always bring at least one 12 inch powered FRFR/PA speaker with me for my monitoring on stage, it only takes a power cable and a XLR to get the exact sound I'm looking to hear on stage, add some pure cabinet to the studio profile and you have your cab in the room sound which can then be mic'ed up and sent to the FOH if needed.
After making the Direct Amp Profile, plugged the amp from the cab and plugged the Kemper to the cab.
I'm comparing the sound with my ears - like i said, for me, the amp in the room sound is crucial.
I'm not comparing Studio Profiles or miked DA rofiles - i'm comparing the profile to the amp on same volume on the same cab with the same equipment (same guitar, same pickup, ...). And - they sounded different. Similar, but not identical.
To the last answer regarding FRFR speakers: This not not how i want to achieve my guitar sound.
I want (or with other words, i'm expecting) that the Kemper should respond similar to a cab compared to an amp.
Obviously this is not the case. But due to many reasons (sharing backline, using existing equipment, ...) i just need the Kemper working with a standard guitar cab. I know - cabs are sounding different which is totally fine - so, i'm referencing the DA profile only with my cab to compare it with my real amps.
I'm not "requesting" that much ... i don't need Studio Profiles, i don't need uncountable profiles - i just want my favorite amps (yes, my amps - not other versions or models, just my personal amps ...) available in a Kemper, straight hooked up to my prefered guitar cab (which is a standard Orange PPC412). And while i was testing the Kemper, i was not capable of doing this. Again, similar sound, but not identical (tweaked EQs, of course cab sim off, tweaked parameters in the amp section, ...). So, that's the reason why i asked again if some optimization happened in the meantime ...
Greetings,
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I don't think you need to use morphing for this. Just simply assign the pedal to control volume in the pedals menu. That control the overall volume of the Kemper itself and you would need to adjust anything else. However if you're just wanting to adjust the actual input volume from the guitar, then that's a different story.
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Okay I'm on the KPA Stage, just upgraded to 7.10 and it appears zero problems now. I'm not having the crash when switching between performance profiles quickly. But I've only seen that once since moving to 7.09. Backup and restore function seems to be functioning correctly.
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Having gigged with the KPA for many years, here's some of the take aways and suggestions I can give on your situation.
You have to learn that you have to dial your amp tones in at every venue via your monitors and FOH speakers. The sound from the Kemper and the profiles you use will not change, but every FOH/PA and monitor setup is different. If you have a dedicated sound guy that knows your tone, it's a simple as having him EQ the FOH and your monitor setup. If you're doing this yourself, have some play some basic chords while you listen to the FOH. You'll know what you need for it to sound right.
My band uses wireless in ear monitors for every show, so we have our own mixer setup. So our connection is like this Instrument>Band-IEM Mixer>FOH via transformered Y This is the most consistent I think you can get, we mix our own monitors.
We send the FOH the same sounds every night and this translates that our monitor mixes are consistent no matter what. If we have to provide FOH sound then we have a live sound guy that knows us and he mixes it, but if the venue provides FOH then you're at the mercy of their guy and hopefully he'll listen to you about your sound.
Here's an update on my experience with the KPA:
First off, I use, basically 5 or 6 sounds. The majority of my gig is played between 4 settings - Clean, heavy crunch rhythm, heavy overdrive lead and slightly broken up, SRV-ish. Number five is fairly clean, good for chicken picking stuff for a couple country songs we play. Other than that, if we do Van Halen stuff I have Top Jimis profiles and I have a Slash sound I made from a Michael Britt profile from a Silver Jubilee earlier this week.
Anyhow - the first couple weeks, the sound that was giving me the most trouble was my clean sound. After the first weekend (I don't recall what I used for sounds) I profiled my Fender 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb. I originally tried Michael Britt's Grab & Go pack, in which he has profiles of this exact amp, but I have my own particular settings, and I've swapped out the speaker in mine to a Celestion G12-65 from 1979, so that amp has its own sound.
Anyhow, if you've read some of my other posts you'll remember I was having problems getting the onboard compressor stomp to give me what my MXR Dynacomp gives me when going into the Deluxe. A couple weeks ago I finally gave in and ordered a power supply for this pedalboard so I could have my comp and my wah, which I also couldn't get right using the Kemper's on board options. Ironically, while I was waiting on the power supply I got the Stack block comp sounding REALLY close to my MXR. Nonetheless, when the PS arrived I thre a Dynacomp out there.
My clean sound now is damn near pristine - I'm getting a lot of comments on it, especially from my bandmates. So I'm thrilled with that.
Now I'm having my biggest problems with my heavy rock crunch and lead sounds. Both are using a profile I made of my modified Marshall DSL100. My soundman has been telling me that he's missing the warmth and balls my tones have always had but all the gigs we've been doing we've been kind of rushed so I couldn't get out there and listen for myself. This evening I was finally able to do that and I can hear exactly what he's talking about. He's definitely not wrong. The problem, though, isn't with the Kemper, it's with my profile. It's definitely lacking down around 300-500hz. I could dial that in with the EQ but I don't have a slot open after the amp in the rhythm crunch sound so instead I'm going to re-profile that amp with a different speaker cab, as well as profile my Modded Marshall JMP-1/9200 rig. The tones I used to get out of that before switching to the Fender a few years ago were otherworldly - I've also recorded that rig a good bit, with the mic combination I'm going to use, and in those recordings, when mixed I didn't need to EQ the guitar at all, it just sat right there in the mix perfectly and sounded gargantuan - so I have no doubt I'm going to get killer results. I should have done that from the get go.
My SRV-ish tone uses a profile I took of the Deluxe with a Lovepedal Super Six w/Stevie Mod in front - using a Sennheiser 906. It's a really great sounding profile. I think when I redo the Marshall stuff, I'm going to run thre 906, in addition to my 421 and Unidyne III Sm57, then either blend it in or profile that separately, for more options. Then if these turn out ok I'll also profile my '86 Laney AOR100, my '65 Fender Bassman and my $400 Bugera Plexi Clone (that sounds amazing). I have one day, Sunday, to do all this so hopefully I can get the right tones dialed in.
So anyhow, that's where I'm at currently with my KPA. Since the vast majority of the stuff we play uses clean and only slightly overdriven tones, I'm really happy with the sound so far. Once I get these other profiles done (which I now know exactly what I need) I'll be that much happier.
Wednesday night a friend of mine, a fellow guitarist on this circuit, dropped in and caught the last song of the set - Turn Up The Radio from Autograph, which is a pretty rockin guitar sound and solo. After the song we were done. He came up & said, simply, 'That's it - Monday I'm buying one'...meaning the Kemper. And that was with the flawed sound. Can't imagine how he'd respond if I had the tone I'm going to have after I reprofile.... -
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This supports what I've been saying all along. The best way to run the Kemper is through FRFR/PA speakers. If you want the mic'ed sound then run the profiles without Pure Cabinet, if you'd like to send a more "amp in the room" sound then run it with Pure Cabinet.
The biggest thing that has to be done for a great live setup in my opinion is EQ the monitor out. You implemented this function a long time ago at our request and I really appreciate the ability to match the FOH sound with my monitors or vice versa. This also allows people that absolutely want to use a guitar cab with the cab turned off in the profile to do EQ a good match for the sound from the PA or to match the sound from the guitar cab to the profile better.
Keep up the good work, I'm a Kemper Profiler user for life!
Yes, you are following my arguments exactly.
Pure Cabinet is not an EQ.
It's made for changing the character of a cabinet sound.
But if a rig sounds good on one a first reproduction system such as your PA, but not good on a second system, then it's not caused by the character of the sound, but by disadvantageous aspects of the second system, a frequency responce issue.
It's obviously caused by your monitor producing too much high end. Thus a classic case for an equalizer.
Pure Cabinet modifies the sound of the cabinet. Having different settings per output would require calculation two differerent cabinets simultaneously, which would add an unsuitable amount of calculation power to the system.
For that reason we will definetely not implement this feature, even though we were asked for it two or three times.
There is another reason:
By using cabinet simulation, digital guitar amps make it possible to monitor the exact same sound that you will present to your audience, which is a huge advance over tube amps. We do not aim to implement features that would purposely counteract those advances.
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Unfortunately, I can’t afford to buy an frfr right now since I am paying on the Kemper. I have no problem getting clean sounds I like, but distortion is proving to be more difficult for me to get a good beefy and present sound. I have seen videos online of people achieving great distorted tones running it through a regular cab, so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I’ve tried adjusting several parameters like clarity, direct mix, definition, etc. There are just so many variables that it is hard the find the right combo of settings.
As far as having to eq for FOH as well, I would assume no FOH setup is the same, so it would seem like you would always have to adjust something. Can you have settings stored for both your monitor and FOH?
Sort of, if you're monitor always is the same then you can EQ the monitor out to compensate and get it matched tonally to the main out. Then any adjustments you would make for the FOH would translate better to the monitor out. If the FOH and your monitor are way off then you may have to adjust the EQ of the monitor in the opposite direction you EQ the FOH. Hope that makes sense.