I use a Roland FC-200 midipedal for my rigs. If I backup all my rigs, used in a gig, (with all amp and fx settings of course) and I want to put them all back in the profiler for another gig, does this include the midi assigns? Or do I have to go through this whole assigning proces again?
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Yes to organise sounds with the title of the song or the set list of the show is a great idea
I also work for years now this way. Sometimes with an abbreviation but I always see which song is on the screen. So in contrast to many I don't use a couple of amps or stomps within the profiler but every rig I try to set to the desired sound to the best I know (and true: that is often a struggle...)
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Hi Wherestedug, previously I checked all your components you mentioned evn clean sense but I will go for all of them again. I'll get back to you later again. Thanks and also to karlic.
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Hi Chris and Ingolf.
It's the feeling that, with the right and sweet spot sound you play better and of course then can give people who listen to you, at least give the impression that you play very well and are just as good as the original (though I'm not!). The right sound does a lot I notice because everyone recognizes immediately what you play. And yes, an intro like Sweet Child o' mine needs that particular sound (as for an example) for a cover.
But perhaps I had too much expectations of my Kemper in this matter (or still have). Before really be able to play with this piece of machinery several months passed and then you wonder that it's hard work to find the sound you're looking for, just as with all that previous other stuff like a Fractal axe or a GT-100. And really: everyone is right to claim the opposite but they surely have more musical intellect.
I'm still very pleased with my Kemper, though it lacks that warm heavy sound and feel coming from an all tube Marshall . But a kind of soundlibrary would be convenient to those like me, even for beginners.
ith that in mind, here's a thought that might make your journey easier. For a given song you're trying to dial in, find a profile that's reasonably close in gain, etc. and then record a DI playing the part. Once that's done, you can put the song on loop, point the DI to reamp the Kemper, and then bring up Rig Manager. As the song plays, you can just down arrow on your keyboard to move from profile to profile in order to more easily audition the sounds. I can usually get a sense of a profile in one bar or less.
That's what I do. I open RM (alwasy connected to the internet) and just hit one rig which I think it's the right one. From there it's only scrolling down to the rest of the rigs and listen...
But I don't get the picture of your tip: record a DI playing the part etc. Can you explain more of this?
And I never went to write songs of my own. I always have learned a lot of playing covering songs .
Ingolf, listening better, you're right. So what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lJpY6MBRE
I would sign for this! (and I have a GT-100 but have moved it to the attic for well known reasons...!)
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I have my powered head a long time now but beginning to wonder about the use. Why do people buy a Kemper. Of course for the weight and the fact that there are numerous amps amd fx in this box. And besides this for the for the possibility now to sound as close as you can get to this solo or that sound from that artist. Considering this it doesn't differ from all those previous modeler. The only difference is that modelers try to copy the sound and Kemper has an exact copy of that particular amp.
OK. but now comes the problem. If you play in a coverband then for both machines counts that it's necessary that you know which amp and witch settings you need to choose to nail that specific sound. If you're not a sound engineer then you can spend numerous hours in front of your machine or looking at your RM to find out what you need . How many of us are such a sound engineer? The aim was to play with the Kemper as an all in one box amp that can deliver any sound you want. In reality it often is a desillusion. I envy those who claim every time in no time finding the right profile for copying that specific needed solo sound, apart from the used guitar. They are the lucky ones. I wish there was a kind of rigsound bank to choose from for those who don't have these skills.
This example with a girl who sounds perfectly right makes me feel like like an idiot with a shelf... (OK, now you,... go on a search hunt...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtR8zmF05s
I'm curious to comments on this
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Desks typically have both the fader and an input / trim level. Your faders generally won't have any effect on the input signal, the input gain knob will. Turn that all the way counterclockwise, or as "down" as it'll go (zero is very often not "off" on a digital console). Then check the meters. Most likely you'll have no signal. Then you can start turning it up until you're at an acceptable level.
If that doesn't do the trick, let me know what brand / model your mixing desk is and I'll take a look at the signal path. Main output from the Kemper of -12 sounds reasonable so it's probably a matter of getting your input levels set.
Hi Chris, Thanks. I checked all settings, as mentioned before. I'm using a A&H ZED fx 22-channel mixing desk.
When you play hard, Is it louder than your other Rigs? Assuming it is, you can turn down the Rig Volume, and Store the Rig.
Hi Paults, Thanks. Yes, I know but I always have left this volume setting to -12dB. So I guess, player louder has nothing to do with the fx and amp settings. But when I increase Master volume and decrease rig volume (without clipping result) what about louder playing then for more headroom?
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I want to go straight FOH. From the 2 main outs (master output stereo) I go to 2 inputs on the mixer (gains, faders and master to zero) and still high clipping.
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I have a clean rig (clean trichorus 5) but with the lightest touch it explodes in red on the mixing desk. I unchecked every fx within the but no improvement, I set the gain on the mixing desk to zero and still the VU-meters are clipping. My main output is set to -12 dB. Input sense and distortion sense are set to 00.
I'm out of options. What do I miss here?
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There are so many rigs in RM but still I don't seem to get a good rig for It's a kind of Magic from Queen. And I really tried a lot. Many of them sound scratchy and TMHO it should sound like a smooth overdrive. Perhaps it has something to do with the Les Paul I use it for. (I don't own a BM Red Special for this song). Any one to nail this song (incl. the solo) with a really close coming rig for an LP?
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Where do I get those?
Did you find them? Indeed in RM . It's simple: just give your search in the right upper corner and if it exists, RM will find it, even among more than 16.000 rigs...
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Fender Super Reverb 65 Reissue
Fender Deluxe Reverb 65 Reissue
These ones?
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I have 2 powered FRFR speakers and for stereo I connect them to Direct out en Monitor out for this purpose. Be sure to check stereo out (Direct out) in Output menu page 1/7
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No worry guys! As I wrote, it's very onconventional. I know, but it works fine for now: Just a good sounding clean rig and the same for the next rig but with an increased gain en higher volume setting. Whether I have to push a switch on a remote to add distortion to a
clean rig or pushing a switch on my FC 200 for a second rig with distortion makes no difference IMHO.
The reason of posponing the other way around is that I can't afford any trouble on stage with the band if I jump now into the unknown ...Really, it works fine on stage the way it is...!
But I surely will cross this border if I'm more familiar with this. Wheresthedug and V8guitar: your explanation and contribution about this will help a lot. For now: many roads lead to Rome... I took one road but will take a highway in time.
For now I increase Monitor out ( in Output) for both rigs. And then I decrease Volume for rhythm for one rig and increase solo Volume for the other, leaving both for more headroom with the volume pedal to control. I guess this is a good option.
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I am a bit confused. Did you say you have a different rig for solo's ? Why do you need the volume pedal then? Just set it at a higher volume.
Yes you're right. I have been working with my FC-200 since 2010. When I bought my Kemper (2014) I could that use that too for midi purposes. At that time there weren't morphing options. So I'm used to what I have. And turning everything upside down now is not my option.
Also it's not an option to turn up the volume after a clean verse and expect a distortion during solo. That's why I use 2 rigs...May be very unconventional but it works for me. Also I know I have to turn to Performance mode, but I have posponed this for a long time....
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OK. So the other way around...If I understand you correctly, what about this as a nother way of working:
Like my main output for FOH (within Master Output) which is set to about -12 dB, I now also use this max volume range for Monitor output. With this I mean the 12 o'clock position
This would hopefully would need to decrease the volume control for the rig, (the rhythm part) and leaving enough room left to increase this for the solo part, with a max to 0 dB (12 o'clock position) And then save both rigs for that particularly volume setting.
Is this the right manner to get a substantial difference in volume, to control also with the volume pedal?
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OK Wherestug. You and of course also the rest of the gang deserve points for what I allready have done (!) but now clearly explained in words! Thanks !
Before all this I allready figured out what the best option for me was and therefor I had it set to Post Stack, meaning volume control to the last in the chain, right?
Back to my topic start. Is having a pure booster in my solo rig the only (if not the best) option to raise volume for that purpose. I tried this but the output led protested in red... Is this due to the chosen amp module? It's not an option to look in 17337 rigs in RM to look for an amp module with enough volume power of its own (and not show red led) for use as a solo sound.
And you all are right at this point: Only one rig in the gig is enough for this purpose ...
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No P98 in the full reference manual has full details about the settings. What manual do ypu have?
I have The Deeper View & Reference Manual 5.l (and I see now that that this version is old...) OK...you have to keep up with all this...so it's version 5.5. now, page 98) This show the same diagram what I have found
I'm very sorry but still I don't know what Luntho writes: "input=before A module, prestack= after D module...and so on"
My pedal is on my midi board and this is only connected through midi IN on the Kemper.
Can someone explain this?
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I never change volumes to switch between rhythm and solo but change EQ instead (more mid, less high/low).
I wonder how you manage that during a live gig...
Thsi is why I use a different profile which is eq'ed in a differnet way. When I boost for riffs I change eq as well as volume, via morph, so with ya on that!
Yes, that is what I also do, but as previously written...with the help of the volume pedal on the FC 200 which in my case is not set in the right chain
input=before A module, prestack= after D module...and so on
OK. I have set this to pre stack ( BW this results in no audible difference!)
But is still confusing to me. What is the Ref. Man. talking about then...? Where is that on the Kemper?
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https://ibb.co/dRd8fLUPDATE...
In response to your specific question about volume pedal position; rather than try typing out the details on iPad I would refer you to pagr 98 of the Reference manual. It will explain the details much better than I can. Any problems though let me know.
Page 98 belongs to a section which is is dedicated to Stomps and Effects. I guess you mean page 68. Indeed it's about the Volume Pedal Function. But I can't find it on the Kemper!
The RM says this: https://ibb.co/dRd8fL
But in Volume Pedal Settings (in RIG) the Kemper shows only these options: Input - Pre stack - Post stack and Output
Am I looking in the wrong direction?
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Before you set anything up, rethink what it is you really need for the songs you have. I used to go as far as running through the songs and listing what sounds I need. That makes programming easier as you will probably find its not as complex as you think or that you can easily simplify once you "see" it.
Yes, I'm always doing that. OK, it's not necessary to have tons of different rigs but I like to nail the sound of the song. Otherwise I didn't have to buy me a Kemper and could do with just one heavy Marshall or even heavier Mesa. But still it can be hard to program that right sound...even with the Kemper.
Wheresthedug, thanks for your tip. I'll go from there!
