hi and lo pass filter are "hidden" in the wah type fx
Personally i still would like to have them in the eq sectio if thats ever possible 2filters and eq in the same block
Personally i still would like to have them in the eq sectio if thats ever possible 2filters and eq in the same block
Check out the studio EQ. Has a shelving high/low and dual mid bands.
Quoted from "Rispsira"
Personally i still would like to have them in the eq sectio if thats ever possible 2filters and eq in the same block
Check out the studio EQ. Has a shelving high/low and dual mid bands.
Yeah, I would like to have the combination Rispsira demanded, too. The studio EQ didn't get a HP/LP without losing freq-bands. Also I'm into adjusting the orders of the HP/LP not by Q-factor (btw: up to 6th order wood be fine if possible).
Anyway - it's only a 'would be nice' - in no case urgent.
Yeah, I would like to have the combination Rispsira demanded, too. The studio EQ didn't get a HP/LP without losing freq-bands. Also I'm into adjusting the orders of the HP/LP not by Q-factor (btw: up to 6th order wood be fine if possible).
Anyway - it's only a 'would be nice' - in no case urgent.
Just try it. You are not "giving up bands" as you can load 2 instances if you want. If you are cutting highs, do you really need another band to boost highs?
The slope of the studio EQ hi/lo pass is such that you're losing a lot in desired frequencies too, compared to those of the wah filters that cut frequencies more *brutally*.
Also, if you need low + hi pass, this takes all the available post amp slots.
For me hi & low pass filters are so important to shape a sound, that they should be implemented somewhere in a more universal place: output section , or cabinet maybe.
The slope of the studio EQ hi/lo pass is such that you're losing a lot in desired frequencies too, compared to those of the wah filters that cut frequencies more *brutally*.
Also, if you need low + hi pass, this takes all the available post amp slots.
For me hi & low pass filters are so important to shape a sound, that they should be implemented somewhere in a more universal place: output section , or cabinet maybe.
Here's CK's response on the topic, he's responded similarly many times on the topic. I've not seen anything from them other than "it's already there" every time the topic has come up, until they got tired of answering the same question over and over and started ignoring it. Since folks keep asking for it, maybe they'll eventually add something...
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lowshelf of the Studio EQ is steep,
not decent. Same is the bass control in the Output
EQs. Other professional EQs set to maximum steepness give you the same
result. This is not documented, but you can hear it, when you are familiar with
EQs. If you are not familiar, no problem, you will still get the best result.
That is the ease that we are trying to accomplish: avoiding dozens of deep
parameters that will carry you away from optimal results. If we had a parameter
for the slope of the filter, it should be set at maximum position. Turning it
down would make it shallower, creating less precise sounds.
It is made and proved for controlling the boominess of an amp sound. You should
achieve excellent results, especially with the Studio EQ, were the frequency is adjustable.
The shelving filters gain goes down to -18 dB. If you bring the lowshelf this
way down, you have virtually created a lowcut or highpass filter (which is the
same as you know). The only difference is that you still have the
"cutout" signals sounding at -18 dB, which is very low.
I am sure that you want to attenuate the boomy frequencies, but not totally
kill them, so you will probably end up in attenuating them by less than 18 dB.
Lowpass and Highpass filters are used for killing frequency components in the
signal that are absolutely not wanted. They can be considered as Shelving
filters with gain at minus infinity. If those unwanted signals are low anyway,
shelving and cutting filters don't make a big difference.
But Lowpass and Highpass filters are great for artistically modifying a signal,
since they work pretty radical.
Our lowpass and highpass in the Wah
section are ready made for sci-fi effects. Still they are studio quality
filters with an even higher steepness and perfect to shape your signal in a
constant fashion. This is why we gave it the names "lowpass" and
"highpass" and not some sci-fi names. Set all parameters to zero and
use the Manual parameter to tune the cutoff frequency to shape your signal.
I just want a single block to include hpf, lpf, and the studio eq. It's not much to ask for, at all. Dialing in exact frequencies for rolloffs would be nice, too!
I just want a single block to include hpf, lpf, and the studio eq. It's not much to ask for, at all. Dialing in exact frequencies for rolloffs would be nice, too!
That wouldn't make sense as per CK the studio EQ includes a high shelf and low shelf. A "shelf" and a "pass" EQ are essentially the same thing. For example, if you apply a low shelf at 100 hz and cut 18db, you have essentially created a high pass filter.
I'm relatively new to the forum so didn't know all what was said about this subject, but I have ears, and they tell me there is a big difference between the two, at least in the highs - i don't use the low shelf that much.
When I'm back from holidays i will make some samples.
Edit: I read the ck answer again and he's saying the studio EQ lowcut is steep, which I agree, he's not talking about the studio EQ hi cut.
He says the hi cut can be done via the wah filter, which i agree too, and it works well.
Still it means that if you want both, you need two slots...
Still hoping to have hi- and lowpass filters with studio eq in output section....
Just try it. You are not "giving up bands" as you can load 2 instances if you want. If you are cutting highs, do you really need another band to boost highs?
If I would I'd to give up an FX-slot I'm actual using. Often the need of the HP/LP occurs when I'm using mega-fx-batteries using all slots (and usually all bands). So then I got no free slot/band neither a second eq-instance.
That's why I'm hoping of a HP/LP direct in the eq. 
For me hi & low pass filters are so important to shape a sound, that they should be implemented somewhere in a more universal place: output section , or cabinet maybe.
I have to say I see where this guy is coming from
I know this is OT but i have to agree about the importance of filters (regardless of implementation) as well!
+1
My answer would be: this is a guitar amp, not a professional mixing desk.
Lowpass and highpass have been introduced to mixing equalizers not longer than 10 or 15 years ago, only in the digital domain, even though it would have been possible in analog for 40 or 50 years. They are used to kill unwanted frequency components.
An exception - and a proof for that - are the subsonic filters in the channel strips.
My perception is that guitar sounds never need frequencies being erased from the spectrum. Neither in studio nor live.
Yeah CK you're right, we're not talking about something urgent here like I said before.
It would just be nice to have it, HP/LP not really important.
Take it as a topic on the user's wish-list - we all know that Santa don't fullfill the whole list!
... but hoping makes our day!
