Some industrial/synth laden stuff, now with real drums!
What do you think of the mix?
Guitars are my Maxon OD9 boosted Dual Rec profiles.
Industrial/synth metal songs
- nakedzen
- Closed
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Keys from 0:17 sound really awesome! Overall sound in my opinion could be better with more focused and open guitar sound. Parallel compression/EQ on kick drum and snare could be useful too.
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Keys from 0:17 sound really awesome! Overall sound in my opinion could be better with more focused and open guitar sound. Parallel compression/EQ on kick drum and snare could be useful too.
Thanks for the feedback man! I've updated the OP with two more songs and new mixes of all of the old songs.
I haven't really touched the drums much, I haven't really done drum editing yet to make them sound more like a real drummer with dynamics and "mistakes", and I'll need to come up with a sound that doesn't sound so unnatural. Maybe some impulse room verb on the drum bus might help, fake drums always sound fake to me since there's no real interaction between the drums since every sample has been recorded separately. I'll have to dig into the settings to see if there's any "mic bleed" setting.
Not really sure what you mean by more focused and open since those are opposites in my mind?
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Thanks for the feedback man! I've updated the OP with two more songs and new mixes of all of the old songs.
I haven't really touched the drums much, I haven't really done drum editing yet to make them sound more like a real drummer with dynamics and "mistakes", and I'll need to come up with a sound that doesn't sound so unnatural. Maybe some impulse room verb on the drum bus might help, fake drums always sound fake to me since there's no real interaction between the drums since every sample has been recorded separately. I'll have to dig into the settings to see if there's any "mic bleed" setting.
Not really sure what you mean by more focused and open since those are opposites in my mind?
I recommend Systematic Mixing Guide as a starting point for drum processing.
As "focused" I mean some midrange punch, and "open sound" in my mind is hi-mids/high accent, because when guitar sound doesn't have enough highs, it feels like there is some "coat" or "barrier" between a speaker and my ear.
In my taste, your guitars have a bit suffocating sound. It could be suitable for some death metal songs, but for modern tones I prefer more sterile, mid/high emphasized sound.
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I recommend Systematic Mixing Guide as a starting point for drum processing.
As "focused" I mean some midrange punch, and "open sound" in my mind is hi-mids/high accent, because when guitar sound doesn't have enough highs, it feels like there is some "coat" or "barrier" between a speaker and my ear.
In my taste, your guitars have a bit suffocating sound. It could be suitable for some death metal songs, but for modern tones I prefer more sterile, mid/high emphasized sound.
I actually cut the highs from the guitars a fair bit with post eq since I felt they were too bright. Maybe I went a bit too far with it.
But there's the problem that the synths already occupy the highs and high mids along with the cymbals, so there's not much space there without making the synths darker which I don't think would work for what I'm going for. I think I found a pretty good compromise with taking the low pass off from half of the tracks.
Thanks for the hint on the SMG! I found an drum room impulse that Finnvox Studios made of their drum recording room, I think helped me a fair bit.
They're in the video description here if anyone needs them:
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I've updated all of the songs with a new drum mix and brighter guitars.
Hopefully the drums sound a bit more like a real drummer in a real room now. I still need to edit them heavily to make the less machine like.
Edit: Updated again.
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Cool tracks, the drums are sounding pretty good to me for this genre, my only thought is that you might want to cut some of the treble either through some slightly lower gain sections or simply with a LPF as right now the fizz is a little overbearing and constant throughout and to me it's covering up your playing too much which is a shame as it's good guitar work! Not that it isn't a good tone some of the time, but it would add dynamic and make it sound more brutal to pull it back a little here and there.
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I just took the low pass off from some of the guitar tracks because Ingvar's feedback of them sounding too dark.
I guess there is no happy medium, it can't be both bright and dark.
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I just took the low pass off from some of the guitar tracks because Ingvar's feedback of them sounding too dark.
I guess there is no happy medium, it can't be both bright and dark.
Your new sound is more suitable for this genre of music, i think. Maybe you should make some comparison with different low-pass positions. High freqs are responsible for sound source position - as I've said before, lower the highs - farther the guitar sound seems to our ears.
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To me it also seems wider in the stereo image if you have bright guitars.
Anyway, vocals added:
(They're not anything pretty to listen to).https://soundcloud.com/nakedzen/not-all-angels
Our old bands drummer promised to play the drums for the EP as well, yay.
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To me it also seems wider in the stereo image if you have bright guitars.
Anyway, vocals added:
(They're not anything pretty to listen to).https://soundcloud.com/nakedzen/not-all-angels
Our old bands drummer promised to play the drums for the EP as well, yay.
Man, it sounds really interesting! Maybe try to replace stereo effect on voice with simple panning and/or double tracking, cause it sounds weird a bit now.
Anyway, congratulations with full track!
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Man, it sounds really interesting! Maybe try to replace stereo effect on voice with simple panning and/or double tracking, cause it sounds weird a bit now.
Anyway, congratulations with full track!
It's not actually meant to have that panning effect, just the chorus. I'll just need to find a chorus that does that same effect in mono. And it's supposed to sound weird.
Edit: Found one, uploading new mix...
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Vocals added to "Transformed". I guess the lyrics need a bit of backstory, the character is a religious man who has been infected by the nanomachines in the ship, but he doesn't realize that and believes he's possessed by demons, and can hear the voice of god (which is the nanomachines giving him instructions).
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Vocals added to the "Big Fight Scene".
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Vocals added to the "Big Fight Scene".
This sounds balanced, I think it is your best record at present time! The only thing I don't like is drum sound, but it doesn't matter, because you said it will be real drums in future on your tracks.
But guitars, synths and voice now sound really suitable to each other!
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This sounds balanced, I think it is your best record at present time! The only thing I don't like is drum sound, but it doesn't matter, because you said it will be real drums in future on your tracks.
But guitars, synths and voice now sound really suitable to each other!
Thanks man! I'm still not sure if the vocals would need some variation during the song, it's pretty much the same style/voice all the time now.
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Vocals added to "Ascending the Crematorium".
