Has anyone noticed a break in period with the FRFR Cabs, be it powered or not?
Thanks!
Has anyone noticed a break in period with the FRFR Cabs, be it powered or not?
Thanks!
I know this is going to open a can of worms LOL
Personally I find that every brand-new electronic device changes its sound after some hours of work. And some extraordinary professionals I esteem and I've learned a lot from think the same.
Come on guys! (<- bullet-and-X-rays-proof glasses )
No.
Haven't noticed any break in with any FRFR speaker that I owned, ever.
Incl. PA cheapos, Atomic FR, CLR, DXR 10.
After many hours no change in tha sound of my CLR
Hmmm ... interesting responses. I've yet to take the frfr plunge with my kemper (apart from monitors in my studio) but pretty much every guitar cab, hi-fi speaker and monitor I've ever owned has benefitted from a breaking in period to a greater or lesser extent.
I've known professionals in the hi-fi industry run new pairs of speakers continuously for 2-3 days prior to a trade show to break them in properly. Perhaps modern materials and manufacturing have reduced the need for this?
I am use to guitar speakers and most have an extended break in period. My computer monitors were this way as well.
Yesterday I got a Atlas 12CXT60 12" full range speaker and front loaded it in a Mesa 1 12" cab. It doesn't sound bad but something is off sounding. At loud volume it opens up more. My hope is that it will loosen up. I am using it with the Powerhead.
Anyone know if the 600watts is peak or rms?
Perhaps modern materials and manufacturing have reduced the need for this?
I don't think so, and the technique is still in use by professional listeners. It's just that many don't hear differences.
I hear a difference with a solid state amp as well. With complex material is more easily perceived than with a simple guitar signal tho.
My hope is that it will loosen up.
To speed up the process, you might want to leave some music program going for some hours (all night long for example), even at a very low level: the morning after you'll clearly hear a difference (with the music program).
For whatever it's worth to you, Jay Mitchell vehemently denies that speaker break-in exists. Not in guitar speakers, and not in the CLR.
Interesting. Misconception, but interesting none the less.
Thanks for the tip viabcroce. I do this with my guitar speakers. Makes a world of difference in Chinese V30's.
I ran some music through it last night and it sounded pretty good with a little eq. It wasn't stiff and had pretty deep bass.
Maybe the larger magnet prevents the effect of break in?
The main reasons for speaker break-in are;
1. cone material elasticizing.
2. rim material softening.
3. plastic carbonizing around the coil.
4. construction tolerances sorting themselves out.
If it's a wooden box, you'd also have the speaker mount boring into the baffle, but that's negligible with plastic.
Yes, it exists and has been proven numerous times in the past.
On a side note, Jay Mitchell gives himself way too much credit
My 15" FRFR took about 15 hours at very loud volume. The sound kept changing afterwards, but not as noticeably.
My guitar speakers took longer. All 8 of them.
Mhhh... My impression is that Mr. Mitchell knows a lot, and furthermore trusts logic and data like a god of his, but has not got golder ears. A kind of modern era positivist.
Could be wrong tho.
Your ears will break in and give you the perception of the sound you are looking for more than the speakers will break in and sound better.
I recommend watching this to anyone who is new to or adjusting to pretty much anything audio to keep you from going to far down the rabbit hole and overwhelming yourself with different ideas or perspectives on sound. (I think I found it on here)
It is an hour so get to it when you can make the time.
I can agree that psycho acoustical adaptation is real though there is no doubt that speaker break in is real as well.
Pretty sure there's a break-in period for a lot of speakers, maybe some more than others.
Funny thing though, I think you shouldn't just treat them to garbage sounds. Kind of like a guitar in that way, the sonics you put into them give them their character in later life