Performance - Rigs, etc. - The quirks...

    I've been searching for a resource that really explains the interaction in "Performance" vs. "Browse" mode, and I haven't seen anything that addresses this. If there is, please let me know and I'll RTFM. ;)


    Here's my question:


    When I practice at home for pleasure, I have a "Standard" setup. 4 sounds I use.


    1. Clean (slight pitch or chorus on it, but no gain.)


    2. Crunch (low gain, just a bit of hair on it - think: crunchy Marshall.


    3. Metal 1 (High gain, my rock out rhythm sound. Very often doubles as my lead.)


    4. Metal 2 (High gain, a variation - usually even higher level of gain. Just a slight tonal variation on the same amp)


    Now when I set these 4 rigs up in Performance mode, I'm using 2 different amps (And rigs.)


    One for the clean, one for all the others.


    My Stomps and effects are locked and set to (in order): Wah, overdrive (screamer), Phaser Flanger, (then the amp stack), and over on the right, EQ for my post-amp lead boost, and Chorus - mostly for prettying up my clean sound a bit. Then of course comes delay and reverb.


    Now, When I switch to Clean, I want a little chorus on it. So I'm in Performance mode, and I save the performance with the clean rig set with the chorus on. But when I change over to any other performance slot (in that set) it reverts to being OFF.


    I went into Browse, saved the rig with chorus on, and go back into performance.


    Nope, still doesn't turn the chorus on.


    I turned off the lock on that effect slot. Still won't turn on the chorus with that rig in performance.


    So I'm kinda confused -


    • What gets saved in performance mode when you click store and safe the performance? What is it really "storing"? Is it a configuration OF that rig setup?



    • If I change the settings on a rig, and save the performance, is it only saving a version of that rig?


    • Or is it saving the underlying rig as well?



    • Also, is there a separate "Lock" happening inside the Performance mode that would block this?

    And also:

    • Is there a way to DELETE a performance from a slot? I haven't found that option yet.


    The overlap between the two "universes" needs to be explained in more detail.


    For now, I just can't figure out why the damn chorus won't load as "on" with the rig in performance mode. It loads as "on" when in browse.


    I'd rather not revert to a situation where I have to set the Midi PC for each of these rigs in Browse, because I like the possibilities of Performance mode.

    - Everything about the whole performance (all five slots) is being saved.


    - Rigs you set up in performance mode don't overwrite the original rig - they're saved separately with that performance.


    - I'm not sure what's going on with Lock. I have a similar setup to you, and I have the first two slots locked to Transpose and Wah. I turn Transpose on and off manually when I need it, and it stays where I've set it as I switch through the five slots.

    Make sure you fully save all of your changes in performance mode before leaving and going to browse mode. If you change without saving, everything is lost. It's like 3-5 save pushes to fully save everything :)


    Think of performance mode as a working clipboard of sounds that use rigs to get them started. You start with basic rig sounds, then you tweak, add effects, etc and save that performance. This is completely separate from browse mode and doesn't interfere or overwrite anything on the rig side. So the rigs are the base ingredient, then FX and everything else you do is the icing on top :)


    Again, changing things in the rig side only changes your starting rig sounds. You can go in and change amp settings, gain, EQ, etc in performance mode and this leaves your browse rig unchanged.


    Pretty cool!


    Sean

    Crazy - but this is what's happening...


    The G System is setup as my Midi footswitch for all my effects.


    So if the preset on my G system has the midi off, it's sending that status over on program change.


    Which is really wild, because I had no idea it did that. Or COULD do that. It can't be a conversation from the Kemper, since Midi is only setup one way downstream.


    Pretty trippy that it does this, since even Laird's whitepaper doesn't mention it, and I've never seen that anywhere.


    I suppose there's a possibility that the Axe FX could be doing this on preset change, too. Anyone know if the AXE FX II sends some kind of state information via midi?


    I'm baffled by this, but at least the mystery is solved.


    And big thanks to you guys who responded...

    Is there a separate "lock" setting within Performance mode?


    i.e., If I lock the stomps, this locks them within performance mode only, for all performances? Or just the currently selected performance?