All Profiles Sound Like The Same Rig

MDL · Feb 25th 2016

Hello All, I just bought my Kemper a few days ago. I do heavy tunes so I'm primarily interested in distorted tones. I've played through many of the factory provided high gain profiles, through head phones, DI to DAW, and SPDIF as well, and I can't hear a distinction between the profiles as to tone. In other words, I can take any profile and crank the gain up and the tones all sound alike, they just have different effects. I performed a reset to no avail.... The tones round good, they really rip, but no distinction in any of them. Is this common or do I have an error? I also have the latest Windows OS. I was hoping to get more than a single tone from my Kemper..... Any input would be greatly appreciated.

MDL · Feb 25th 2016

Sorry, I have the latest Kemper OS update

Peerless · Feb 25th 2016

try with different amplifiers / cab combinations.

MDL · Feb 25th 2016

For example, I look at one rig that says a Mess was used, or an Orange, or a Bogner....... All have the same tone...... Don't round any different to my ears.... Im a studio owner and I know for example that an Orange has a boxy sound compared to a Mess..... But they sound the same on the Kemper

paults · Feb 25th 2016

do they all sound the same to you before you "crank the gain up"? The amps were profiled with the amount of gain you hear when you load the rig. If you want more gain, you will retain the amp's original character better if you add a boost or distortion in FX slot A,B,C, or D.

hal2000 · Feb 25th 2016

How is the behavior between a clean and a distortion factory rig, for example:
Jazz Clean - SM57Roland JC-120 and
ACE Kosh PT Ultra GainKoch Powertone
When you turn off the gain of the Koch, is it sounding the same as the JC-120?

mrs-zambesi · Feb 25th 2016

So... post a recording!

Ingolf · Feb 25th 2016

Quote from mrs-zambesi

So... post a recording!

This.

Monkey_Man · Feb 27th 2016

Agreed.

All too often we hear folks say all the rigs sound the same to them. We know that a properly-functioning Kemper reproduces amp setups faithfully, and that said rigs definitely do not sound the same. Something is always therefore amiss in these cases.

skoczy · Feb 27th 2016

Quote from Ingolf

This.

Agreed. Record a sample and note what profiles were used.

WhipsMontreal · Feb 27th 2016

Maybe...

http://www.silentundergroundstudio.com/free-stuff

MDL · Feb 29th 2016

Here is what I've discovered..... If I use DI out with the output set to master mono then the rigs sound approprietly different. There is NO master mono selection on the SPDIF output and the only way the rigs sound different on SPDIF is on the Master Stereo selection, but then I'm having to record on a stereo track and pan both left or right..... What am I missing here with SPDIF?

Zapler0 · Feb 29th 2016

Did you listen to the profiles only with your headphones ? If that's the case that may be the problem, distorted tones sounds pretty bad this way unless you have a really good pair of headphones suited for this purpose.

viabcroce · Mar 1st 2016

Weird that you don't hear differences with "Master mono" and hear them with "Master stereo". Is it the same if you switch all the "stereo" fx off (space, delay). the only difference should be that you don't hear the stereo modulations.

MDL · Mar 1st 2016

There is no master mono on SPDIF.....

viabcroce · Mar 1st 2016

Quote

If I use DI out with the output set to master mono then the rigs sound approprietly different

Was referring to this.

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