Kemper and dxr12 sounding bad

    Reading the OP again it occurs to me that you'd be most happy with an amp and Thiele cab. It's so subjective, and just cuz the DXR10 works for others (including me) doesn't mean it's right for you or your situation.
    If it worked well for you before, it will again.

    I had the same issue with my dxr12. Sound was ok but very thin and digital-like. I found that messing with the main-out/monitor eq's solved the problem. I boosted everything on there which fattened my tone very nicely. Also taking the global pure cabinet out completely got rid of the digital feel and sound. Extremely happy with it now, much better results compared to my old setup with matrix poweramp and zilla 2x12.



    I play in a metal band that tunes extremely low, so not sure if this helps you at all. But worth a try :)

    I had the same issue that you have.
    I tried differant stuff, never happy at the end.
    But
    Now this is past, i found the Mission Gemini 2 with EmPower adjustement.
    Stereo, FRFR with the tweaking of it with EmPower.
    It sound Lound, it feel like a real cab, it dispers like a real cab, and you keep the FRFR crystal clean sound and have an super very good Hi-gain sound too.
    The best of both worlds.


    I play Live with band, no PA, so it must do the job.
    I sold my tube amp (Mesa Recto), i sold on other backup Mesa Tube amp too (Nomad 55).
    and now all my huge pedal-board is for sale.
    What a switch, hey !
    I am a tube amp guy, like hi-gain solid distortion sound.
    Took me several months of trial different thing (cab, amp, FRFR PA Loudspeaker, etc.) at home in my studio before to bring that set-up to my band place.
    My band guys was blown away, they told me how precise, clear and solid my tone is now vs before.


    Mission Gemini 2, try it.

    Thanks. I'll look into that one.

    also Blueamp make some very nice amp / cab, stereo one too.


    the only issue was that for Canadian voltage (like usa), to switch to 120v, the amp will lost half of his wattage.


    and the offer only an on-off switch for FRFR to normal cab frequency, no adjustment pot.


    The adjustment EmPower pot make the entire difference to bring the great tone without sacrificed the FRFR advantage.


    so i selected Mission instead of Blueamp (made in Germany)


    and very happy, no regret at all.


    by the way, i replace the 24v power supply inside for an None air fan style,
    no noise anymore.
    or you cab buy the Studio model instead of the Live model of Gemini 2
    same thing, but 550$ cdn more to pay

    You can't really compare Gemini 2 stereo vs headphones.
    Since the sound will totally move over your head from Right to Left and vi and versa with headphone.
    Vs two speakers side by side.
    Of course the best stereo effect with cab will be with 2 separated cabs with an 4 feet distance in between.
    But
    The Stereo FX is very good, it sound full, you can ear very well the ping pong effect for sure.
    i had long time ago 2 marshall cabs side by side with may be 1 feet in between and i can telling you that the Gemini give about the same stereo hearing.
    the good thing is one cab only is less floor space and less cable also.
    For me that was perfect.

    Playing my KPA through my FOH (a pair of DSR112's over a pair of PRX618XLF's) blows away any 4x12 I have ever owned ;)


    Of course, that isn't what I hear on stage. I use IEM's so the tone I hear is completely different.


    My situation is totally different though.


    If you are running an amp on stage and miss that big sound, you may need to move up to a 15" powered speaker like the DXR15 to get that huge feel.


    It is a pretty prolific speaker so you should be able to trial it out at a local music store to see for yourself.

    I talked with few guys and read so many comment about how good the Yamaha DRX10 is vs DRX12.
    I believe that DRX15 will be too much bass.


    I had 2x RCF Art 312, it was very good for clean and mid gain profile but not great for hi gain,
    It was like missing something, less dispersion, not the same punch as a real cab with out of wood.
    i took the 12`` instead of the 10`` model to get more mid and bass.
    But not satisfy at the end.


    it all depend of what you do and want and how use you are to hear and feel the cab behind you.


    For me Mission Gemini 2 fix all that with the EmPower adjustment.

    I guess my assumption was that the OP was missing that thump in the chest you can get with a 4x12 cab behind you. Four 12" speakers simply move a LOT more air than a single 12" or 10" box can. There is simply no way around it.


    If that isn't the case, then you are correct, a 15" speaker wont make things better.

    lk_bill
    No EQ in Kemper doesn't act like EmPower.
    EmPower is associated with the real wood cab 2x12 and only on the Hi frequency speaker in the center of that main speaker (coaxial speaker).
    Believe me i tried it when it was connected to PA Loudspeaker.


    OneEng1
    I am used to play with 2x12 V30 closed cab, not 4x12.
    I like better 2x12 than 4x12, note that this is my personal taste.

    Thanks Michel,
    Very informative. There's little info on the net about the EmPower feature, even on Mission websites or official youTube videos.
    They seem to have developed quite a unique feature here.