Kemper Recording + DI?

Quote from and44

Ok.. So, im toyed around with the Kemper now to want to do a few recording tests etc. (im going to use the kemper to re-track my forthcoming album) so a lot of work ahead but before I start...This is my need list.

To record my chosen sound from the kemper
To record a DI signal ready for re-amp later (for those times the sounds just is not right) - PLus to get some room cabs involved etc.

My recording chain is..

ElvenRack as my interface, Kemper hooked up on SPDIF

Any advise how I would get this DI signal?
Andy

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I suggest using the direct out to record an extra DI Track.

direct out is just the clean signal

Do you send it to an instrument input (hi-z) of your audio interface?

Thanks!

Quote from pacocito

Do you send it to an instrument input (hi-z) of your audio interface?

Thanks!

No, the direct out signal is already low impedance. So you use just a normal line input.

Check this thread:

http://www.kemper-amps.com/for…ight=comparison#post18195

Thank you!

So, when profiling, we are sending a low impedance signal to our amp. Isn't this like reamping without a reamp box?

Hard to say. Probably just a routing problem. Do you even get Pro Tools to record the SPDIF input that carries the KPA´ s output signal AND the analog input for the direct input at the same time? i dont know how flexible the 11R audio routing is but you have to make sure that it does not try to output in the incoming SPDIF signal to it SPDIF out again.

I recommend using two ouput busses in your DAW that ouput their signals independantly. Route your DI track to your "reamping" bus. This has to use the SPDIF output. Then in the KPA you activate the SPDIF input. Now should already get the KPA to produce the tones. Now you record the KPA signal in you DAW with an input bus that is connected to your SPDIF input. Some audio interfaces are limited in the way that they always send their audio output to the SPFID out and cannot be used independantly. This will create a feedback loop so test with caution!

Quote from and44

I use Protools, so Ive set the Dry signal to use Output (SPDIF) - then made a new track in PT and The input is set to Kemper input (also SPDIF)
Arm the track for record.. and press play.. and Nada!!
Nothing at all.

On the first take does it record both tracks (wet and dry)?

By the second take (re-amp) did you disable/unplug the normal input of the 11R? I know is a dumb question and it shouldn't be necessary...

Quote from pacocito

Thank you!

So, when profiling, we are sending a low impedance signal to our amp. Isn't this like reamping without a reamp box?

So...no one ever answered this question, and I have the same question as well. Can anyone confirm or say otherwise?

Thanks!

So I guess here's the official word:

Dear Sig,

The Direct Output is a low impedance output. But that is no problem, since high z inputs like amp inputs are capable of taking even low impedances without colouring the sound.
Active Guitars e.g. have a low output impedance.
A mismatch would only occur, if the impedances come close, but in our case the ratio is made even higher.
Sincerely,
Burkhard Dinnies

This sounds a little odd to me. The last time I checked, I can't come out of a Digidesign 192 into guitar pedals...it sounds terrible and the impedance/levels are way off. It's the whole reason Reamp boxes were designed in the first place.

Thank you for sharing.

I've got a reamp box to test but not a KPA because is back to Germany to be repaired.

I did a profile with the reamp box but just to emulate a guitar volume roll down:
http://www.kemper-amps.com/for…4902&highlight=#post54902

Saludos!