Performance to profile? Is it possible?

Quote from cmbrowns

Kemper doesn't follow computer style file naming. So, if you save a rig from a performance or copy a rig to a new rig, it just uses the same name as the original. Once created, you can then rename them if you like as a second step.

But say you copied the same rig a few times. If you don't take that extra step to rename, you could have any number of rigs with exactly the same name (although different file dates). You also can't pick a location. For example, if you're editing some rig already on the Profiler, you can overwrite it, save it to a new rig with the same name, or save it to the root of Local Library. You can't save it to some other folder you might have created, or to a different Rig name. Not 100% sure, but I think I have this right. I don't really like how it works, but I can deal with it.

Some of us have asked for a more conventional "Save As" type of approach where you are asked for a location and file name as it's created, but so far Kemper hasn't been responsive.

The problem is as follows.

If you have a rig that you have imported into a performance, then made changes to it, and want to save it, how do you know afterwards which of the two identically named rigs is the latest version?

This is a problem for me because i actually want to go back from performance mode to rig mode. And i do NOT want to connect my kpa to rig manager ever again if i can help it.

Quote from Kim_Olesen

The problem is as follows.

If you have a rig that you have imported into a performance, then made changes to it, and want to save it, how do you know afterwards which of the two identically named rigs is the latest version?

This is a problem for me because i actually want to go back from performance mode to rig mode. And i do NOT want to connect my kpa to rig manager ever again if i can help it.

Save, then sort by date in Browse would be my first stop.

Or, as RVS0002 suggested - rename the rig BEFORE exporting from the performance. Which I'd never thought to try.

As Ruefus says, the two rigs have different time/date stamps so can be identified as unique but it is a pain in the posterior having to add this additional step rather than simply having a Save As option like every other piece of software since the dinosaurs.

Quote from Wheresthedug

As Ruefus says, the two rigs have different time/date stamps so can be identified as unique but it is a pain in the posterior having to add this additional step rather than simply having a Save As option like every other piece of software since the dinosaurs.

But is it truly and added step?

Granted, the sequence appears odd, but here’s the thing…..

You rename the performance rig first. Then export - and now the browse rig name matches what’s in performance. When you do the opposite (browse rig to performance) - the same thing happens.

I think that makes WAY more sense than a traditional Save As, where any relation to where the new Rig came from is lost.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one Ruefus. It's not just browse to performance saving but all saving where a Save As makes more sense to me.

Quote from Wheresthedug

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one Ruefus. It's not just browse to performance saving but all saving where a Save As makes more sense to me.

No doubt, its unconventional. But the order of operations - rename, then export retains the rig name performance to browse. In this specific instance - doing a save as would sever any relation the new browse rig has to where it came from. Which is an enormous frustration for me, now resolved.

Quote from Ruefus

No doubt, its unconventional. But the order of operations - rename, then export retains the rig name performance to browse. In this specific instance - doing a save as would sever any relation the new browse rig has to where it came from. Which is an enormous frustration for me, now resolved.

I think you're in a minority of 1 on that front Ruefus

Thing is, i might NOT want to change the name in the performance. Just export the rig under a new name.

Quote from Kim_Olesen

The problem is as follows.

If you have a rig that you have imported into a performance, then made changes to it, and want to save it, how do you know afterwards which of the two identically named rigs is the latest version?

This is a problem for me because i actually want to go back from performance mode to rig mode. And i do NOT want to connect my kpa to rig manager ever again if i can help it.

My suggestion -

With the performance loaded and the correct slot selected, press the Rig button. I forget the page number, but one of them is rig details with an edit soft button.

Rename the rig, then export to Browse and you'll know what you're looking for. Kludgy? I suppose....but it works.

HTH.