I tried both and every other speaker my local dealer had in stock I choose the 10 because they were lighter but also IMHO they sounded better and tighter not so boxy
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Does a Yamaha DXR10 have enough volume? (Metalcore)
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Does a Yamaha DXR10 have enough volume? (Metalcore)
I use 2 in my band and they are plenty loud enough and we are a very very loud band
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Just to add some technical info, the DXR10 is one of the loudest speakers in its class - it has 1100W RMS and 131 dB SPL. For comparison, the QSC K10 is 1000W RMS and 129 dB SPL.
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So DXR 10 ? DXR 12 ? why not DXR 15 ?
will this work for bass too ?
Is 1 monitor enough ( and enough loud) if i dont care of stereo ?
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So DXR 10 ? DXR 12 ? why not DXR 15 ?
will this work for bass too ?
Is 1 monitor enough ( and enough loud) if i dont care of stereo ?
Let me put this way: the DXR10 can be *extremely* loud, really over the top and has way more power than I'll ever need. And I'm talking about just one, to be honest I can't see myself using two, especially with the Kemper since I use its monitor out and leave the stereo outs for FOH. And BTW when I say it's loud, I mean it's loud even on clean tones, this thing has a ton of headroom.
My choice of 10" over 12" or 15" is based on the fact that they're lighter, more compact, and since all of these speakers use bass-reflex construction, they have plenty of low end - I haven't tried, but my guess is they'll work with bass just fine.
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Im lead guitarist and lead vox. We play Welcome to the jungle and Sweet Child Of Mine. The secret is all down to arranging. I pick the main/best bit from both guitar parts and play it like that. Go check us out on facebook we are called "The Floating Greyhounds" one or two songs we play that have main keyboard parts in the original song, we use a click track
Im lead guitarist and lead vox. We play Welcome to the jungle and Sweet Child Of Mine. The secret is all down to arranging. I pick the main/best bit from both guitar parts and play it like that. Go check us out on facebook we are called "The Floating Greyhounds" one or two songs we play that have main keyboard parts in the original song, we use a click track
Yay for another Norfolk boy with a Kemper!
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Where abouts in Norfolk are you from
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I am an ex-greyhound
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Paul likes "real amps" I love my toaster.
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Speaker stand be better or down?
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I have mine like monitors on the ground
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I always use mine on a stand, but there's a switch on the back for adjusting response for using it as a floor monitor like in the Atomic CLR, never tried it though.
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I'm also in wedge mode.
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Just thought I would give a bit of an update. Went to Guitar center today to make sure I was really hearing what I was hearing with the DXR's. I demoed the QSC k series stuff, EV ELX 112, the JBL PRX612, and of course, the Yamaha DXR12. I will say, the qsc k8's (yes 8's!!!) were absolutely incredible as far as power. 2 of those could rattle your balls right off. I am not kidding, the low end those things throw out is absolutely astonishing, I was completely blown away. HOWEVER, the QSC's really do have this absolutely ANNOYING midrange/high end harshness that I just can not stand. I am sure for a regular live FOH PA system, these are absolutely fantastic, but for what we as guitar players want, I would not even consider them. I am not saying they are "scooped" sounding per say, but they are definitely the most "PA like" and farthest away, in my opinion, from sounding like you are playing through an amp. But yes, they are extremely powerful. even with one of those K8's (let alone the 10 or 12) you could make your bass player weep. I had my bernie rico jr 7 string, and the Qsc didn't even blink. I even turned on the transposer and dropped my 7 down 3 or 4 steps just for fun, and it took the low end no problem. But again, I would NOT consider buying these, for what I want and what I am into.
Next up was the EV ELX 112P, and jbl prx612. I saw a youtube video with the JBL PRX, and it sounded really great. The EV and JBL was much closer to what I wanted and look for, with the EV 112P getting the nod. However, he EV had a much more exaggerated bottom end, the JBL seemed much more accurate in the low end frequencies, also seemed a tad darker, and more neutral sounding. Overall, they are both very good sounding. As stupid as it sounds, I probably would consider getting the EV's just based on the fact that they are much easier to angle right up at my head. Their angle is much better than the JBL PRX. Stupid maybe, but that was really important to me.
After really liking the EV ELX stuff, I was kind of worried that my ears were playing tricks on me, and that the yamaha's were not as good as I thought.....I was DEAD wrong, that is for sure. Plugged into the Yamaha DXR 12, and from the first note I knew, this would be the speaker I use. Guys, alot of the complaints about the FRFR stuff is the annoying high end (ala, QSC stuff) that gets brought out: The Yamaha's do not have that in the least. I am telling you, these things are going to take off big time when people get to play through them, and experience them. The high end was so natural, and "guitar cabinet like", I couldn't believe it. They are also not "scoopy" sounding AT ALL like alot of FRFR/PA speakers. This is probably the biggest difference, and what makes them sound/feel the closest to a normal guitar cabinet that I have personally heard yet: They have the midrange of a guitar cabinet it seems, as weird as that may sound. There was absolutely no annoying midrange or high end, and the bass response was right in line with the JBL as far as accuracy. These things are the closest to an "amp like" FRFR system that I have heard yet, by far. I am using the Mackie HD1531 at the moment, and I can't get rid of it fast enough after hearing these things. I really think people are going to rave about these when they hear them. I am a high gain/metal guy, and this speaker is dead on in what I've always wanted to hear in an FRFR system. There is honestly nothing I can think of that I would change about it: It even has that great angle upwards like the EV ELX series.
I know this sounds like a sales pitch probably, but whatever. Guys, do yourself a favor and go try these. The reviews are glowing for a reason. Sorry to stir up your GAS
but I think you will hear what I am hearing. 2 of these in stereo is like hearing god, I can NOT wait to get these guys home!Just picked up 2 dxr12s... absolutely phenomenal.. LOVE them
Me to picked up 2 DXR 12s. Awesome I have a small question.
I want to use "monitor" and "direct out" connected to the DXR 12s.
On the "master page", you can set the "Monitor" = "Master Left" and "Direct" = "Master Right", ( if I remember correctly).
Although I set the same volume on both so is it different levels out from KPA
If I try the "Master Left and Right" outputs I have the same level
My idea is to set so that "Monitor" and "Direct" follows the "Master Volume Control" and then send a separate mix from XLR Left and Right to "house system" that is not affected by the "Master Volume control."
How does it work for you other guys who run in stereo ?
Have you tested this config ?
Do you have different levels out in that case ?My KPA run on ver 2.0.0 beta.
// Björn
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As far as I remember there is no true stereo with monitor and direct out. I can't tell you the exact reason, but I'm sure someone else on the forum can. But you can go the other way: Main Outs for stereo with the DXR's on stage and Monitor Out to FOH. Nobody in the audience cares about stereo guitars on FOH. And it can be a disadvantage with stereo effects, because people on one side of the FOH-speakers are hearing this side louder (or only this side). For example with a delay it can sound very strange...
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A little correction : The only thing you can't do with monitor out is to have cabdriver on both outputs.
Other than that choosing master out L and R for the outputs should have the same results as using the main outputs.
I have to check this myself.
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A little correction : The only thing you can't do with monitor out is to have cabdriver on both outputs.
Other than that choosing master out L and R for the outputs should have the same results as using the main outputs.
I have to check this myself.
If true this should be reported as a bug.
There's no need for cabdriver, because with the DXR's he's going FRFR. He will have to choose a cab from inside the KPA, otherwise it will sound very poor through the DXR's. -
There's no need for cabdriver, because with the DXR's he's going FRFR. He will have to choose a cab from inside the KPA, otherwise will sound very poor through the DXR's.Yes, I know. The DXR's don't need cabdriver because they are FRFR.
I was only referring to the differences between the main and monitor outputs.
Definitely you should have true stereo on monitor out.
