Posts by 40661d4ade5602bab6d4c5f085c0e61f79738f31

  • NIGHTWISH / Dark Passion Play tones

    Thanks a lot for the profiles :thumbup:



    Actually the profiles' info in rig manager is different...


    Fisrt Engl Fireball into a Marshall 1960A cab
    Second Bogner Uberschall into some Diezel cab
    Third Bogner Uberschall into Engl Pro XXL
    Fourth Bogner Uberschall into Bogner cab


    Maybe wrong or unfixed tags. No big deal :)


    These are studio profiles, right?

  • NIGHTWISH / Dark Passion Play tones

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emppu_Vuorinen


    "Photographs and Nightwish diary entries from the recording of Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum confirm he used a Bogner Uberschall head into an Engl cabinet as well as his standard Mesa/Boogie into Marshall cabinet setup. He now uses Kemper profiling amps with a custom profile he made at a friends studio. The front of house sound comes straight from the DI from the Kemper but often has a 4x12 cabinet offstage, aimed across the stage which is used for monitoring and feedback."

  • Converting a mix-ready profile into a live-ready profile

    Quote from VESmedic

    man....It's a funny world when you ask for advice, and give a reference to something that the person who is giving the advice has intimate knowledge and experience with, and thats considered mean!


    From all i wrote you only kept this? Man...why so serious? Relax. You can give me your intimate knowledge and experience as you said, that's why i ask you after all. I asked for your advices and your thoughts about my matter. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Converting a mix-ready profile into a live-ready profile

    Quote from VESmedic

    Funny you mention trivium. Those guys are some of my best friends, and I actually happen to have the vengeance falls profiles profile that was used on the record. The record was done with a profile of 5153, and then 2 outside tracks of a real 5150. To match the live tone, they actually make the profile BRIGHTER and thinner for live use, believe it or not: kind of the opposite of what you were thinking. That doesn't mean it works for all profiles though of course.


    i mentioned the Britt profiles to make a point that while mike might have created them for "live" use, they are the exact same tones he's using to record with too. So whose profiles
    are you trying To use live? what kind of PA's
    mare you playing on? Have you played with the hi/low pass in the graphic EQ section ?


    Quote from VESmedic

    you also mention how can I be so sure that pros using tonehammers profiles aren't doing any tweaks... You are basically implying there are special "tweaks" that work for making s profile work live: well if that's the case, we've given them to you man: hi/low pass, cutting treble adding mids etc. im not sure what else you are looking for exactly??? I mean those are absolutely the most standard "tweaks" out there
    that many people do. There is no one standard tweak that will universally work for everything?


    I kmow the EXACT frequencies Corey and Matt
    cutt/boost on the profile they use live from vengeance falls, and how much: but that only applies to that specific profile and their specific mix
    man, there are too many variables. Bottom line you gotta use your ears...


    Why are you so mean to me man? ;( Hehe!


    They made it brighter? Didn't expect this. Well, i know that there is no standard tweak that fits all, i just wanted some guidance, some advice, some experience. I am covered now. I knew myself about cutting treble and adding mids. I love mids actually and not scooped sound. I have not used hi/low pass yet though and i think it could be very usefull for what i am searching for. So, could you make some tweaking suggestions (especially to cut bad treble frequencies and bass boomyness) or you will be mean again? :D Of course i use my ears, but i am no expert for creating the best live sound of my life :saint:



    Yeah, i understood that you meant lowering. Well, i will check PC more if it actually does what you described.I just don't like the idea...i mean PC as i said is created for those who have frfr and want a feeling of a guitar cab sound. For playing at home i find it ok, but why to mic a cab and use PC to actually "unmic" it for live use? :P Doesn't make sense to me...anyway...


    Thanks :)

  • Converting a mix-ready profile into a live-ready profile


    I have tried to tweak all these parameters but they doesn't make a bright profile darker. Ok, more definition kinda adds brightness so lower is better and clarity makes the sound even brighter or thinner. Also pure cab is created to have the guitar cab sound feeling with a frfr, i don't want to change the nature of the sound. Thanks for the suggestions though :)


    Quote from VESmedic

    What is this " as well all know" stuff??? There are no " special " profiles for live use verses recording. The ONLY commercial vendor who originally stated his profiles were for live use BUT also uses them in the studio is Michael Britt. There is no special way to make a profile good for live use vs recording. Unless you are using outboard gear in your profiling chain such as external eq's etc. For the most part, most profiles are made with a mic and a mic preamp: sometimes only a mic. Not really much way to differentiate a live profile from a "recording" with the only tool being a micropvone generally. I'd be more interested in what PA you are using and how things are running via that end of things vs the profikes you are using . Tonehammer especially has numerous pros
    using his stuff live, definitely not a problem with the profiles ...


    I think you missed the word "most" i wrote. I said most of the profiles. Anyway, imho, yes, most of the commercial profiles are created for recording. You said it yourself, only Michael Britt has said clearly that his profiles are for live use. Not every profile suits for all. And if you agree that there is a big enough difference between a good profile for recording and a good profile for live then you have to do something with the first one to make it good for live too. For example, i have read that Trivium, when they released Vengeance Falls album, at their live performances they had then, they played with the profiles they used to record the guitars of the album, but with some tweaks (they didn't say them of course). These tweaks i am trying to find. I also have noticed that the tone coming out from the guitar cabs of metal bands is always dark, to balance the mic brightness for the PA sound. This makes sense to me. You said about Tonehammer and pros using his profiles...but how sure you are that they use them without any tweaking? You cannot prove that.


    Quote from mDan

    Buy MBrit Profiles
    Play Live
    ???
    PROFIT


    Jokes aside... I usually just make a special live output EQ preset with Bass and Treble lowered - I just care about my inear sound. The FOH guy will do the rest.


    You are right, but it has happened the FOH guy to tell me lower the treble from Kemper because it was too much. That's why i am trying to find some settings to have the most balanced but also huge sound i could get.


    Quote from andygeedot

    I found most of the Mbritt profiles really good especially for live, because they are very mid-heavy which is very easy to mix for most FOH guys.


    :thumbup:

  • Converting a mix-ready profile into a live-ready profile

    As we all know, most profiles, especially the ones created from commercial sellers, are mix-ready profiles which are great for recording, mixing etc but not so great for live performance use. I play metal and i found most of the profiles to be really bright and harsh through PA without any tweaking. So these days i am trying to figure out how to convert mix-ready profiles into great sounding live-ready profiles and what tweaks do i have to make to achieve it. Until now i lower treble and prescence about 2db each at output eq section. For reference i use my Alto TS112 frfr. Any tips or advices?

  • FW 4.0 beta experiences thread.

    Please try something and tell me if it happens to you too. Load a di profile, enable cab and select a cab from a merged profile. Save it as new profile. Close the kemper and open it again. Then the sound for me is like shit. If then i change the profile to something else and go back to it, the sound becomes great again. Something is messed up about cabs, merged profiles etc.