Posts by Monkey_Man

    (btw Monkey_Man - do you have a real name? I know you have no pics, social media presence... I'm just hoping your folks thought to name you :D ).


    Just kidding, no offense meant at all... :thumbup:


    Cheers mate!
    Gary


    Yes, no socialist-media presents for the Monkster, Gary. :D


    You know, now that you've asked this less than I day after Harry asked me in a PM, I think I'll sign every post with my footprint from now on. Until now I've only done so here and there, as I have in other forums where folks call me MM, Monkster, Monkey, Monk or Nicky... and sometimes "man". LOL


    Thank you for your interest, Gary; your inquiry has altered a pattern of my behaviour!
    Nicky

    I think we are now going in circles here. Remember that some plugins over sample internally? My argument is, why not simply record at the higher sampling rate and avoid the internal over sampling process?


    Also, VI's don't over sample in order to create a higher quality version of a sample (as in an audio file used for manipulation). They do so in order to use better antialiasing filters. This in itself yields better sound quality in the audible range.


    Yes, Jose, after I posted yesterday I realised something:


    Whilst the samples themselves will not sound any better, the manipulation rendered by the plug-in itself, such as filtering, amplitude and pitch modulation and so on will be less destructive in this case.


    I was looking at it from the point of view of the actual samples and not taking into account the fact that in most situations they're being manipulated by the VI involved.


    I'm with you on this, mate.

    I can't find an email address on the site, Guido - I don't do socialist media, as you know, so Twittstar, FaceLook and whatnot aren't an option for me (all blocked for the Monkster!).


    I also can't host pictures (my avatar is a one-off freebie) so I can't post them in this thread.


    I could try a PM - maybe that will allow me to upload them... hang on...


    OK, just tried PM. Won't accept jpg. Tried an RTF text document but it "reformats" it all to the same font and size.


    Best bet is you provide me with an email address so I can send them as attachments, Guido.

    Yeah, and interestingly for me, sometimes not listening gives the game away.


    By this I mean that if I turn my attention to something else, playing it in the background, the naturalness or "authenticititty" of the "valve" amps creates an atmosphere that's much more pleasing, and one that just seems to "belong". This is obviously most evident if one plays one device after the other, and not just one only, although it still holds true in the latter case.

    I meant that, so far, it is impossible to have different sample rate files playing in the same project. How would the mixing engine keep up with several files playing at different speeds in order to keep them in sync? It would be a nightmare.


    Ever had a sample rate mismatch, where a higher sampling rate file is imported, without conversion, into a lower sample rate project? You end up with a file that sounds lower in pitch and plays at a slower speed, and the opposite is true if you invert the scenario. How fast or slow the file plays depends on the ratio between the audio file's sample rate and the project's.


    Of course.


    As I said, I thought DAWs simply SR converted tracks on the fly if needed, but as you pointed out, it's upon actual import that this takes place if need be.


    But it DOES improve the sound quality. Wether you hear it, or care about it enough to invest in the higher processing load and disk space footprint it brings with it is another matter. That said, not all plugins are created equal, and some may not benefit from using higher sample rates like others. YMMV!


    Take care!


    I stand by my statement. It's the higher-resolution "fodder" the mixing engine's fed (by the VI that's now been up-sampled) that allows calculations to be made with more precision (provided the mixing engine's running at this higher rate) - useful for summing as well as FX processing, as you'd know. "Straight" playback of the VI sans any summing or processing 'though should sound identical both with and without subdivision of sample length.


    The existing data (the VI's samples) cannot be enhanced in any way through the process of oversampling; it's merely a preparation for processing "down the line". IOW, information cannot be added; all the information you're ever going to get is contained within the source samples.


    Another obvious way of putting it:
    Picture a basic 4-pixel picture - a black, a white, a black and another white square (top left, top right, bottom left and bottom right). Divide those four sectors each into however many segments you like and reconstruct the picture. Does it look any different?


    ... And another: Whether you use 8 lego blocks or 80 (imaginary!) much-smaller ones to make the same shape, you still have the same shape.


    Obviously, if my argument were true, it'd be an exercise in inefficiency to add redundant data to a digital representation of anything... and it is... unless it were to serve a purpose such as I suggested - that of servicing a higher-res engine like a mixing one in a DAW.

    Those folks who've had issues receiving the DL links:


    I wonder if you somehow missed them - they're on two "receipt" pages from what I can tell:


    1) The "Checkout" page that says "Thank you. Your order has been received". The links appear in small print below the individual packs' names.


    2) The "Thank you for your order" page which follows the previously-mentioned one; it says that it's "now being processed". On this page the links appear in smaller print, but not as small as on the previous one, and they're underlined this time.


    Just thought I'd mention this in case these links simply weren't seen.


    Plus I will add a better organization on effects and stomp presets with subdirectory by type in the navigation. Now it's really confusing ... it's a pity ...


    Agreed, Maurizio.


    Skoczy and I had a detailed discussion in another thread about this, covering how this might be implemented - pages, lists, page-button and knob usage for navigation etc. I don't remember the thread title, so I can't provide a link I'm afraid.

    yeah am sure lots have seen it but it seemed relevant to post it as it's the same guitarist demoing the two pieces of gear it's easy to hear the difference between the two


    Agreed, and thank you again for posting the link, mate.


    IMHO, it's a pity that the Kemper one was overall a bit duller (less top-end); the tones weren't able to cut through in the same way as the Helix's, a way that would have done the Kemper justice and accentuated the difference between the two units. Nevertheless, the "organicness" of the Kemper, by comparison, is still evident IMHO.