Hmmm... I'll be investigating this myself later.
If i will find the time, I can try to reproduce it too.
Not the best outcome, but it may be one of those things that miraculously vanishes with a future update.
Were such cases before?
Strange noises inside my kemper!
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Record your guitars directly into your recording interface, without the Kemper. Do you still get the same overtones at the same frets?
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Record your guitars directly into your recording interface, without the Kemper. Do you still get the same overtones at the same frets?
when reamping, yes i do
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Before you reamp, do the dry guitar tracks have these harmonics? (Although, they may be too subtle to hear without some kind of amp added.)
Do you have a plugin that you can send the tracks through, to see if an amp sim also makes them happen?
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Before you reamp, do the dry guitar tracks have these harmonics? (Although, they may be too subtle to hear without some kind of amp added.)
Do you have a plugin that you can send the tracks through, to see if an amp sim also makes them happen?
Have tried both - so far without luck - I'll have to try again, more thoroughly
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Listen, i want to be sure i am not misrepresenting kemper support in any way, so here is their answer inserted - i may have misunderstood what the meaning was i realize when re-reading:
Since others including myself can replicate the situation with your DI track it is obvious that your Profiler is not malfunctioning.Our engineers suspect that there are specific overtones in your guitars that cause the artefact on certain notes.You could try to compensate for that by lowering the clarity parameter in the amp section.Our engineers will look into the matter to see if there is anything from our side to improve this but i have to ask for your understanding that i cannot give you any estimation about how long it will take before they have any results.
Now , this sounds, more logic to me. they are not telling you that it is fault of your guitars. It might be, but they don't say KPA might not be the problem as they will look into this. For sure you have not faulty KPA, as other users' KPA does the same. -
Quick question - have you tried different cables? Cables can do some weird stuff
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OK here you go, try this. This is DI'd straight into my Apollo into Pro Tools HD.
The first two sections are Seymour Duncan Custom in humbucking mode, first picked then with thumb.
The second two sections are Seymour Duncan Custom coil tapped, first picked then with thumb.
The fifth(final section) is the humbucker, picked, but with a string dampener on the 3rd fret stopping any sympathetic vibrations.
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The above clips are with D'addarrio NYXL's 10-46 I guess there is a chance the strings could make a big difference.
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OK, in an entirely lo-fi listen (using laptop speakers):
I heard the string sustain become more complex than a simple decay at fret 6, and 8+ for several frets. Adding any gain to this would add harmonic complexity to the tone and envelope shifts.
I think it comes from wood, wire, neck curve, fret height, etc.
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1) notes of this duration are normally articulated when actually in a piece of music.(finger vibrato, etc), so this would not be heard in a recorded or live mix.
2) individual guitars have harmonic character, resonant frequencies, etc. This is a GOOD thing. Otherwise, they would sound like a thin wire stretched across two concrete blocks. -
Yes exactly, certainly to my ears, and the feel when playing I think that the issue Michael is hearing could well be down to a combination of some or all these factors. Thats why I mentioned the strings, and why I tried a string dampener. To me I can actually feel the difference when using the dampener, even though at a simplistic level it shouldn't affect the fretted string, but to me it does, and quite a lot. Whether that it all feel or is audible I guess could well be subjective. Maybe we need to look at the capacitance and inductance of the cables
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String dampers do make a difference. So does damping the tremolo springs on a strat. Even the pickup mounting springs can have an influence. Those sympathetic vibrations bother some people more than others (I mute the trem springs, but not the other things I mentioned).
They are like fnords (the "get ready to change the reel" mark that appears in the upper right hand corner of old movies) - once you hear/see these things, you will always notice them.
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Even the pickup mounting springs can have an influence.
Yes. Not long ago I have to dampen pickup springs on my tele. I played some metal stuff with silence breaks at high volume and guess what... when I expected silence there was not. Only kind of rumble. -
On a somewhat related note i just heard acdc's shook me all night and on the last sustained chord of the intro, you can hear a noticable warble on one of the notes. Prob not the same thing here, but it was funny that im hearing these things now
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On a somewhat related note i just heard acdc's shook me all night and on the last sustained chord of the intro, you can hear a noticable warble on one of the notes. Prob not the same thing here, but it was funny that im hearing these things now
You will start to hear the squeak of the Kick Drum pedal in old Led Zeppelin songs next
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This is a great thread to show how good a forum this is for people helping and sharing
well done guys 
