Quick Midi CC Question ...... Stomps On / Off vs Non-Stomps On / Off .... ?

    Hi all


    Just a quick -probably simple / dumb / obvious- Midi Control Change Question.


    I want to be able to use Midi to change from Rig to Rig - Program Change and also use Midi to Turn on/off the EFX - Midi Control Change Numbers


    I have been offered a RFX Midi Wizard -> http://www.rolls.com/pdf/M_MP1288.pdf - according to its manual it:-


    " can send up to 8 Program Changes to 8 different MIDI-linked units for each program number assigned to the pedal .... it can also send up to 8 continuous controllers can be used to very parameters directly on the receiving unit in real-time "

    So ......... is sending Midi Control Change Numbers -the-same thing as- sending Midi Continuous Controllers ?


    Ben

    No, it is not the same. Control change numbers are used to toggle things on and off. Continous controller cover a range from 0-127, for example to control volume via CC#7.

    I could have farted and it would have sounded good! (Brian Johnson)

    Hi,


    I think it will work. If I'm not mistaken MIDI Control Change and Continuous Controller are just 2 different names for the same thing. A MIDI CC can send values from 0-127. When it is used to toggle an effect it generally sends 0 for one state (On or Off) and 64 (or higher) for the other state. A footswitch, like the Boss FS-7, connected to the MIDI Wizard's continuous controller inputs should work.


    Brian


    Quote from benifin

    Thanks guys ....... damn ...... it would have been perfect if it sent Midi CC .....grrrrrrr :)

    Edited 3 times, last by ba_hill ().

    This does only send PC changes via the buttons on it, but it can also send CC numbers. They may be tricky to set up, though - they will remain on an On or Off state when you change rigs. If they are retransmitted in that state when a PC is sent, your FX status will be retransmitted for each slot.


    You would have to connect up to eight External switches and/or controller pedals, and assign CC numbers to them.

    Quote from Kempermaniac

    No, it is not the same. Control change numbers are used to toggle things on and off. Continous controller cover a range from 0-127, for example to control volume via CC#7.


    Program Change (PC) is different but Control Change and Continuous Controller (CC) ARE the same message types, just different use cases. You could use CC messages for on/off messages or for things like a volume or wah sweeping.


    Regular 7bit CC can be between 0 and 127. Typically, 0 is used for OFF and everything else is considered ON (typically 1, or 127). Kemper uses 1 for ON officially, but will treat anything greater than 1 to be ON.

    Quote from benvigil


    Program Change (PC) is different but Control Change and Continuous Controller (CC) ARE the same message types, just different use cases. You could use CC messages for on/off messages or for things like a volume or wah sweeping.


    Regular 7bit CC can be between 0 and 127. Typically, 0 is used for OFF and everything else is considered ON (typically 1, or 127). Kemper uses 1 for ON officially, but will treat anything greater than 1 to be ON.


    Thanks! I knew this too but didn't wanna make things too complicated for the OP. :) Sorry if I've created some confusion.

    I could have farted and it would have sounded good! (Brian Johnson)