IEM vs 4x12" vs FRFR

    Hi,


    been playing Kemper for a few Weeks now and I think it's about time to complete the Setup.


    The problem is, I'm not quite sure what the best approach could be.


    For rehearsals I'm using a Mesa 4x12" STD Cab and at home some Adam Monitors - sweet Sound in both Setups, but when it comes to live Gigs I'm not sure what the best solution could be. Carrying the 4x12" is no Option - just bought the Kemper to get rid of traveling with so much Equipment ;)


    So it comes down to FRFR vs. IEM. I would love to just use IEM but since I would be the only Musician in the Band who would get one - is it even possible? Something like One Ear for IEM and using a Wedge from the Club for the other Instruments? Or are there some reliable IEMs with 2 Inputs (1 for Kemper 1 for Bandmix which would go through the Wedge otherwise?)
    On the other Hand I still would have a different Sound in Rehearsals (Mesa) and Live (IEM) Situations - that seems very annoying when it comes to tweaking the Sounds to get the best Sound for the whole Band.


    FRFR sounds like a much smarter Solution in this Case - always (almost) the Sound the Audience will get. But will a Wedge be enough to compete the 4x12" and the Tube Amp from the other Guitar Player and the 8x10" from the Bass Player? (We indeed do rehearse very loud since our Drummer is a little Maniac ;) )
    Next Problem is that almost every FRFR which is recommended in here (Atomic, DXR, RFC SMA, etc.) is not available in my (only) Local Musicstore - so I would have to rely on YouTube Vids & Recommendations to order a FRFR (and maybe have to take Use of the Money Back Guarantee more often than necessary) - Seems like a whole lot of Work.


    When it comes down to budget I'm mostly free to take what I need. I'm in need of the perfect solution for the next 10 Years - not the one I can afford at the very right moment.


    If it helps: The Live Situations differ from 150ppl Clubs up to bigger Festivals. Mostly the small Clubs though ;) Which means there often will be a technician behind the Desk which is not very reliable (in my Area the smaller Clubs do not have soundengineers who really know what they're doing)


    Anyone got a hint how to approach this dilemma? Any help would be highly appreciated :)

    I can help here :)


    When i first got my KPA i used 2 DXR10's they sounded great and held their own in my very loud rockband no problem at all. Now i use 1964 V6 IEM's which just sound incredible and the DXR10's are part of our FOH sound system. IMO i couldnt go back to not using IEM's the mix i receive is way better than what i experienced on stage with monitors and cabs, plus im saving my hearing :) One thing i would say is whatever route you go down it takes a while to get used to it bot IEM and FRFR these will not have the same experience as a big 4x12 behind you pushing all that air, but the sound on stage for you and your band buddys IMO will be better. The other thing to consider is if you dont have a Cab or FRFR on stage how will your band mates hear you? or do they have IEM's or their personal monitors. Hope this has helped a bit


    IEM's are just awesome though :)

    thanks a lot for the Response!


    regarding the other band mates: Never played a show where there where not enough monitor wedges from the club itself. This should be enough for the others to hear me :)


    But how about the other way round... How do I get the IEM working for me? :)
    Is there a solution to get the band Sound to the IEMs without involvement of the sound engineer? We do not travel with own engineer, so this could be an issue sometimes.


    Never heard of 1964 Audio - but the first look was very impressive! They just sell Earphones - so you still have to get Sender/Receiver - correct?

    I use the kemper in combination with a Shure PSM300 IEM system.
    Just plug in the auxillery from the PA to the system with youre own mix and problem solved.


    You can also add the monitor out to the PSM 300 system.
    This way you can level your volume above the mix youre getting back from front of house.


    In my band we have oure own mixer for a personal monitor mix.
    This way you always have the same mix on ears.
    Not depending if it's an rehearsel, small or large gig.

    Hi,
    I use wired IEMs (at the moment, cheap skull candy titans with pro guard self moulded ear impressions) which work really well.
    I use the stereo utility out from the desk, send that to a 4channel Behringer headphone amp and then feed that output back to a TC helcicon combined guitar and headphone lead.
    I drop the headphone cable down the back of my clothes and plug into the combination lead. Job done, cheap as chips and the best monitoring I have ever had. The only downside is that the feed is the FOH mix so we have to be really careful setting that up at gigs.
    At rehearsals, where we don't use any PA speakers the sound is stellar.
    We have an electric drum kit and I've managed to persuade everyone except the singer and bass player to go 'in ears'. Even the singer uses cans during rehearsals.
    Works for us and does not cost a fortune. Just be carefully setting levels and don't turn up!
    Good luck!
    Pre-Amp